Dragondorf Players?

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Any Dragondorf players out there?

I am really enjoying the Dragondorf for it’s flexibility and counter play for all areas of the board.

I’m also hoping to confuse my opponent as well.

https://www.chess.com/game/computer/18041855

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2 good make 1 bad.

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Najdorf is best ever

Dragon is worst ever

Dragandorf is 25%

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I don't feel comfortable (as Black) in Dragon-type formations, because of the weakness of the d5 square. Give me a Najdorf with a Scheveningen-type center instead. 

THAT is dead-center in my comfort zone.

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blueemu wrote:

I don't feel comfortable (as Black) in Dragon-type formations, because of the weakness of the d5 square. Give me a Najdorf with a Scheveningen-type center instead. 

THAT is dead-center in my comfort zone.

I like the e5/Opensky version of the Najdorf so I kind of got use to the backwards d pawn.

I don’t like the piece sacrifice on e6 line.

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Chuck639 wrote:
blueemu wrote:

I don't feel comfortable (as Black) in Dragon-type formations, because of the weakness of the d5 square. Give me a Najdorf with a Scheveningen-type center instead. 

THAT is dead-center in my comfort zone.

I like the e5/Opensky version of the Najdorf so I kind of got use to the backwards d pawn.

I don’t like the piece sacrifice on e6 line.

Just fianchetto your Queen instead of your Bishop.

 

That allows you to keep e6 overprotected.

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dragandorf is decent, a little weakening to the king and allows for quick attacks for white but should be fine

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blueemu wrote:
Chuck639 wrote:
blueemu wrote:

I don't feel comfortable (as Black) in Dragon-type formations, because of the weakness of the d5 square. Give me a Najdorf with a Scheveningen-type center instead. 

THAT is dead-center in my comfort zone.

I like the e5/Opensky version of the Najdorf so I kind of got use to the backwards d pawn.

I don’t like the piece sacrifice on e6 line.

Just fianchetto your Queen instead of your Bishop.

 

That allows you to keep e6 overprotected.

I typically do after expanding with a6, b5, when the counter counter play is there.

I am enjoying the flexibility on being able to create counter play like in this position:

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What do you do against the alapin scicillian?

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Why do you play against bots?

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Echessfun wrote:

What do you do against the alapin scicillian?

Nf6 or d5 or g6 depending on my mood.

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ShrekChess69420 wrote:

Why do you play against bots?

Experimenting with development and middle game plans to see if I can reach enjoyable positions.

Sometimes I’ll set the engine to 2500 and let it exploit my weaknesses. I’d rather spend the 3-5 minutes with engine preparation then find out in a live 15/10 game.

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If you really want to play a versatile Sicilian play the Sicilian Kan. It has so many tactics and its all about pawn breaks if you know what they are. Thel Dragondowarf is not great at higher levels and gets crushed. I got into the Alekhine opening against e4. It is so fun because the move orders are common like the Kan, and you have a middle game plan that is pretty much the same in most variations. The reason I quit the Kan was because I found the Moroxzcy bind to be drawish and no chances to win. 

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Chuck639 wrote:
ShrekChess69420 wrote:

Why do you play against bots?

Experimenting with development and middle game plans to see if I can reach enjoyable positions.

Sometimes I’ll set the engine to 2500 and let it exploit my weaknesses. I’d rather spend the 3-5 minutes with engine preparation then find out in a live 15/10 game.

The engines are a little wack imo, they don't play like humans. The best way I can describe it is that engines don't make mistakes in confusing positions, they make one mistake in a simple position followed by really good play in confusing positions.,

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MatthewFreitag wrote:
Chuck639 wrote:
ShrekChess69420 wrote:

Why do you play against bots?

Experimenting with development and middle game plans to see if I can reach enjoyable positions.

Sometimes I’ll set the engine to 2500 and let it exploit my weaknesses. I’d rather spend the 3-5 minutes with engine preparation then find out in a live 15/10 game.

The engines are a little wack imo, they don't play like humans. The best way I can describe it is that engines don't make mistakes in confusing positions, they make one mistake in a simple position followed by really good play in confusing positions.,

I enjoy the engine prep.

I will visualize 2-3 moves deep x 2 lines, play one out and hit back then run the other line. Then in real live games, it becomes ingrained pattern recognition. As an example, I see a minor piece develop and certain pawn structure , I enjoy a similar line and strategy to play for off the get go; a plan is better than no plan.

I am a classical player and playing 15/10 is way too fast for me, so this training routine helped me pick up the pace in rapid play.