Duras Gambit.

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Avatar of 13yearold

I play this and it's fairly good.. can someone go more in depth to it for me?

Also any good varations?

Avatar of NimzoRoy

It's really not "fairly good" or good at all which you'll eventually discover the hard way if you keep on playing it. There's a reason why there's only 2 Master games with it in the Game Explorer here, and even though Black won both that's statistically meaningless. You really need to learn and play sound openings first.

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/1e4-f5

Avatar of Scottrf

Black just looks dead. Not even trying anything clever, what does black have for his pawns?

Avatar of Shuhister

Lol... you all did the same mistake :)

Avatar of NimzoRoy

The Game Explorer/Master Games DB here shows 2 masters losing to an "A" player and Expert after 1.e4 f5 2.ef5 Nf6 3.d4!

MoveGames
White Wins
Draws
Black Wins
2.d4 842
38% 20.5% 41.4%
2.Nf3 336
41.1% 23.5% 35.4%
2.c4 29
34.5% 24.1% 41.4%
2.f4 20
45%   45%
2.exf5 4
100%
Avatar of SoapyChesSuds
I just had this game with a friend haha, also while theorizing a bit with Duras opening, if your opponent allows, it is possible to play d6 -> e5 and then into a Queen's Indian defence. Wish I could link that game here but I played it on a real chess board. This was a recent game I had with a friend, although I could've equalised after his second move, I decided to continue with this Queens Indian idea. However I only won due to my opponents blunders, and what NimzoRoy said was correct. This is only an opening you should ever play to surprise your opponent.
 
 
Avatar of Strangemover

Better to just never play this opening. If my opponent plays this I will indeed be surprised - pleasantly.

Avatar of Optimissed

3. ...d5

Avatar of Johnson2233

sux

Avatar of pfren
Strangemover έγραψε:

Better to just never play this opening. If my opponent plays this I will indeed be surprised - pleasantly.

 

And even better, not replying to someone who has not logged in for more than four years.

Avatar of Strangemover

That was a reply to a post on that day which suggested the Duras had surprise value pfren. The comment has now been deleted, I guess they were banned. Thanks for taking an interest though, I'll quote anybody I reply to in future so you can see the timeline of events.

Avatar of QuesadillaBurrito

good opening for white

Avatar of SonOfFingon

Duras gambit is insane. As black you have to hope white will blunder in the first 5 moves. If he does the game will be over soon because the gambit allows you to develop quickly. If he doesn't the game will be over even sooner because you are just begging to be mated with this opening.

Avatar of Optimissed

I think black looks fairly ok .... similar to any other slightly dodgy gambit black can try in the opening. Black's king is displaced but should be safe enough on f8. Black gets a bit of development and white loses the best bishop, I think. Black regains one of the pawns easily and it's unfamiliar territory for many people.

Avatar of dpnorman

I think if you're going to do this you might as well play 2...Kf7 and go for full psychological effect, but then again that's even more easily refuted. 

Avatar of starboontz

a warrior's opening!

Avatar of Optimissed
Shuhister wrote:

Lol... you all did the same mistake happy.png>>>>

1. e4 f5 2. exf5 Nf6 3. Be2Some person said this is checkmate how? 3... d5?? (3... h5! 4. g4 hxg4 5. Bxg4 d5This is not so bad..>>

Hi, isn't 4. Nf3 better, on general principles?


 

Avatar of Ziggy_Zugzwang

Beat me to it starboontz...

Avatar of AccessibleFight

On move 11 for white rxg3 is best

Avatar of OrdoAjedrez

Why does black always move the knight after the gambit is accepted? d5 is strong and Idk how white can punish