Looks like suicide to me, you give black strong center play and a free pawn..
Well, such weak players as Botvinnik considered the Dutch Defense to risky, because White can play the Staunton-Gambit.
I should mention that many strong players like Nakamura , smyslov and.... were playing dutch.so If you prepare against it,It wont be risky!
Its' a simple refutable opening.But worths playing i blitz games
Refutable? Please show me a line that refutes the Staunton Gambit. There ARE a couple lines that give Black a good game, but having a good game doesn't mean the gambit is refuted, since White has a playable game as well.
In many lines white gets a bad position.
yes If both sides play correct,It would be equal and both sides will have good game
Not really bad positions, though certainly positions where Black has scored well because Black has an easier position, although White has a playable position too.
Oh, and if a game is equal with best play on both sides, the gambit isn't "refutable".
I should mention that many strong players like Nakamura , smyslov and.... were playing dutch.so If you prepare against it,It wont be risky!
Today with huge databases and strong engines and much analysis, the Staunton is of course not very dangerous, but the gambit is not without a point.
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Has anyone tried refuting the staunton gambit with g6 on move 4 for black( in the main line with Nc3, Nf6 and Bg5)?
It's well playable as any other reasonable reply to the Dutch.
One GM and one IM going down the drain against GM Ivanisevic:
People here who claim the gambit is "bad" can apparently do better than players rated 700 points above them...
The Gambit is bad in the sense that White throws away his advantage for going first, and with correct play, Black can gain easy equality.
Refutation? Uhm, no! Would I condone playing the Staunton Gambit? Uhm, NO!!!!!!
If White wants an advantage against the Dutch, he should play 2.g3! (some other moves will directly transpose, like 2.Nf3, 2.c4, etc, but they leave White with less flexibility, like being able to play the Nh3 lines against pre-mature commitment to the Stonewall). If White is content with mere equality, Staunton Gambit is probably ok. I consider equality before move 20 as a victory for Black.
It's well playable as any other reasonable reply to the Dutch.
One GM and one IM going down the drain against GM Ivanisevic:
People here who claim the gambit is "bad" can apparently do better than players rated 700 points above them...
f5, followed by Bh6+ with a tempo, Nd2 does not give much in return either
Even as one that does play main lines, I often play 2.e4 against 1...e6 because of my love for the French Advance as White. Only thing easier to play than that is the Closed Catalan!
I found minimal attacking chances with it and gave it up, after losing to too many players rated lower with it.
A major issue is that White isn't opening the f-file for itself... Black gets it too, and Black can always block the a2-g8 diagonal with its central pawn majority. Getting the pawn back tends to cost a bishop pair. I'm sure it's playable though, White gets some time and Black's volunteered to have some holes.
Actually there is another issue, and it's probably the main one. Any Dutch player you face will likely have more experience playing the Black side of the Staunton than you will have playing the White side of it, unless you're a Dutch specialist yourself. It's a matter of practicality. It doesn't cut down on study, like tricky gambits can sometimes do.
Has anyone tried refuting the staunton gambit with g6 on move 4 for black( in the main line with Nc3, Nf6 and Bg5)?
i just played into that line. I followed with 5 Bc4 c6 6. d5 Qa5?.......so yes black tried to refute it...tried and failed....
brah dont play 3 f3 in the staunton gambit i will show you the only real line for real men brah:
Its' a simple refutable opening.But worths playing i blitz games
Refutable? Please show me a line that refutes the Staunton Gambit. There ARE a couple lines that give Black a good game, but having a good game doesn't mean the gambit is refuted, since White has a playable game as well.
you know,against a prepared opponent,white can not get any thing exept bad or equal position