Dutch vs. The London system

I don't know why but the London system seems to stick to the Dutch like glue, namely because you have no intention in playing e4 for quite some time.

The London system was an opening I would naturally play when trying to work out how to develop my pieces without ever hearing about it (maybe it's because I'm from England! :p) and I don't know why it gets such little attention.

Since I've been, slowly, working my way up from where I was I've started to encounter this Dutch/stonewall. If it's my first time, I go on Youtube, whatever, and get wasted miserably. So, I play naturally in a sense "let's just play chess" and play the London because it just feels so right without the e4 pawn advance and it has been smashing the Dutch!

Are there any Londons out there who play this system against the Dutch?

Yes I just won a tournament game against a higher rated player with the london vs Dutch

There are three flavors of Dutch -- Stonewall, Leningrad and Classical.

I can see that Bf4 works on the weak dark squares of the first two, but in the Classical, Black plays d6 and looks for an e5 break, driving the Bf4 back.

That's my theory anyway. I haven't played it.

Black may also get his kingside pawns rolling with h6, g5 and squeeze Bf4 to Bh2.

Anyway I sure wouldn't play the Stonewall against the London.

if u think London System, is a problem in Dutch, i Think u don't have understood well the basics of this opening (Dutch).

When u push e5 usually u have good position, imagine with Bf4, e5 will harm white more.

White coldnt prevent e5 despite controling e5, because u can have more pieces controlling e5 if u devleop accurately.

Moreover, u can use h6-g5 idea too...

NM Rene Philips beat up GM Gabriel Schwartzman who is a specialist in the Dutch with the London system.  Ok it was an online 15min rated Blitz game, but so what, Schwartz was the US open champion at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-dueJcDkX4 (go to 5:50)