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RussyPoo83

Which of these is best for players in the 1200 to 1300 rating range?

AdultChess_on_twitch

1. e4.

Because in the beginning you should learn how to play with initiative. And after 1.e4 chances to get such positions are higher.

tygxc

1 e4 'Best by test' - Fischer

CastPo

I'd say stick to d4 or e4, c4 is a bit complicated and quite confusing to play. But honestly, if you play one of those currently, stick to that.

Igl0men

I play c4 myself it's my fave opening

Igl0men

Or u can play b3 the nimzolarsen attack

theultimateminhloclol

I guess c4. The English opening. I learned this from Top Chess (search on YouTube and you'll find many chess memes including lessons which contain the tutorial for this opening). I tried it against my friend and he thought I was using Stockfish while when I opened the game review (I won that game), then Stockfish said I did 0 blunders.

theultimateminhloclol

So the conclusion is I think c4's the best

Ethan_Brollier

First move doesn't matter at 1300. I'd recommend e4 or d4.

Compadre_J

I would play 1.e4 as white because their is a lot of chess books & chess knowledge which has been passed down during the ages of chess.

When you play with the Black pieces against 1.e4, I don’t recommend 1…e5. LOL

Every person is different, but to me 1…e5 has to many Bc4 (Fried Liver Attack wannabes)

The ranking range between 1200 & 1300 was the worst for me.

I got sick of 1…e5 because I got tired of dealing with those types of people.

I also at the time didn’t know how to defend myself from it very good.

I would recommend playing French, Caro Kan, or Sicilian.

Maybe, you can start with e6 Sicilian at first.

Than switch to Dragon Sicilian at ranking range 1400.

Compadre_J

The above is known as the Noah Arc Trap which happens in the Sicilian.

I won a lot of games like that.

If they don’t fall for it, it is ok.

Everything is fine for Black.

When you begin facing stronger plays around 1400, they will not do that as much.

You can try out Sicilian Dragon at that time.

They usually play a very calm line like above which is great for Dragon.

Tougher players will begin playing YugoSlav Attack which should happen around 1800 rankings. I recommend changing lines again at that time.

It’s a crazy looking line like above.

GrandmasterJohn15
c4 definitely! The English is super solid and has plenty of attacking possibilities despite its reputation of being passive!
DrSpudnik
GrandmasterJohn15 wrote:
c4 definitely! The English is super solid and has plenty of attacking possibilities despite its reputation of being passive!

Any opening presents attacking possibilities. And openings aren't passive, chess players are. You can make any game you play as bold or timid as you want.

GrandmasterJohn15
Yes thank you optimissed! Some openings like for example kings gambit are not timid! If you play timid in that you will lose! And some openings like for example the Dutch Defense are very timid and don’t allow for attacking possibilities until very late in the game. However the English is very flexible so you can do either depending on you and your opponent’s play style.
GrandmasterJohn15
Observe following game. White plays passively at first but once given an opportunity he opens the game and attacks resulting in a win for white due to resignation. This is a perfect example on how the English Opening is a powerful and versatile opening that deserves more use!

1. c4 e5 2. g3 Nc6 3. Bg2 Bc5 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. O-O O-O 6. Nxe5 Nxe5 7. d4 Nxc4 8. dxc5 d5 9. cxd6 Qxd6 10. Qxd6 Nxd6 11. Nc3 c6 12. b3 Bf5 13. Ba3 Rad8 14. Rfd1 Nfe8 15. e4 Bg4 16. f3 Bh5 17. e5 Nb5 18. Nxb5 Rxd1+ 19. Rxd1 cxb5 20. Bxf8 Kxf8 21. g4 Bg6 22. f4 Bc2 23. Rc1 Bd3 24. Bxb7 f6 25. exf6 Nxf6 26. g5 Nh5 27. Bf3 Nxf4 28. Rc7 Nh3+ 29. Kg2 Nxg5 30. Rxa7 h6 31. h4 Ne6 32. b4 Kg8 33. Bd5 Bf5 34. Re7 Bg4 35. Bxe6+ Bxe6 36. Rxe6 {1-0}
Mazetoskylo

Ask the same question when you are 1700. For now, openings are far less important than avoiding blunders and picking up free materail.

GrandmasterJohn15
Hey! It is still necessary to learn opening theory when you are less than 1700. Yes it is also necessary to avoid blunders but good opening theory is crucial!
GrandmasterJohn15
Nice game! I respect D4 a lot. I used to play the queens gambit. And for an aggressive player D4 is the better option. However for a more positional player like myself C4 is the better option in my opinion.
DrSpudnik
Optimissed wrote:
DrSpudnik wrote:
GrandmasterJohn15 wrote:
c4 definitely! The English is super solid and has plenty of attacking possibilities despite its reputation of being passive!

Any opening presents attacking possibilities. And openings aren't passive, chess players are. You can make any game you play as bold or timid as you want.

Disagree, it's a combination of both, isn't it?

Well, I disagree too. 1. e4 can be played timidly, or like Morphy. Same goes for 1. d4 or 1. c4 or even 1. Nf3. The aggression level in any game is in the hands of the players and depends mainly on how risk averse/acceptant they are.

GrandmasterJohn15
Yes but certain openings have to be played aggressively and others more timidly. I agree that it partly in the hands of the players but also depends on the opening.