Early move order in London system

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kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... You think [IMPfren and IMPoucin] aren't good enough? ...

I have no objection to their involvement. As you know, they do not participate everywhere, and, in any event, you are perhaps aware that there is not agreement amongst all the authorities as to what is best in this or that situation.

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... Additionaly you don't even care about  chess. ...

That is false.

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... Why a guy ... cares if some guys buy  books ...

I do not care whether or not some guy buys books. I try to call attention to possibilities.

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... You are unable to say with certainty if your suggestions are helpful because you don't have the necessary knowledge.That means that  the statistical chances alone to be wrong are at least 50%.And that doesn't bother you. ...

I believe that I improve a person's chance of finding a suitable book by helping the person to know more about the books that are out there.

Bramblyspam

A modest suggestion for posting in forums: when you've said what you want to say, and everyone reading the forum knows where you're coming from, it's better to move on than to keep repeating yourself. I realize there's a certain emotional satisfaction in getting the last word, but after you've gone back and forth a couple times it becomes counterproductive.

With that, I'm bowing out of this discussion. ;-)

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... I wouldn't suggest anything if I wasn't absolutely sure it's good.You are not sure but you don't care. ...

Certainty does not seem to me to be possible when it is a question that involves both a book and the person who may be reading it.

"... Just because a book contains lots of information that you don’t know, it doesn’t necessarily mean that it will be extremely helpful in making you better at this point in your chess development. ..." - Dan Heisman (2001)

Bishop_g5

Take for example this thread : https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/colle-system-newbie-inaugurate-me

Suddenly a low rated player in openings and in chess general shows up asking a question about the Colle showing that he doesn't understand the difference from Koltanowsky and Zukertor and for him the Colle is one and the same...

He ask when in the Koltanowsky White plays b3? He doesn't ask advice for a book, he don't even mention if he needs a book.

Suddenly Kindaspongey shows up , giving a list of separated suggestion in the Colle and Zukertor that I doubt how many of them explain the fundamental difference between the Zukertor and Koltanowsky since the most of are repertoire books or individual to one of those subjects or they include the Zukertor as a part of the Repertoire.

Does Kindaspongey care about?

Not Ofcourse...lets post a list of books and some of them will be useful enough.

Tell me Kindaspongey...what the OP question has to do the Killer Opening Repertoire?

Does this book explain the difference between Zukertor and Koltanowsky ?

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... If someone without any medical knowledge and without any interest in medicine suggested medicines or medical books that he actually has no idea if they are good, would you trust him?

There are many differences between medicine and chess instruction. Perhaps one of the most important is that there is not one generally recognized authority for chess instruction. There are a wide variety of authorities offering various sorts of advice to the chess public for chess instruction.

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... So you are among the authorities?

No. I am someone who tries to help people to know about what is out there.

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... So you are their guardian angel.

No.

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

 ... You notify people about all the reviews in chesscafe ...

No. I refer to some of their reviews and reviews in other places as well.

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... 2 years ago Kasparov , the biggest authority of all , regarding chess , suggested some books.I notified you about Kasparov's suggestions and gave you a link to see the interview. ...

I do not remember seeing this.

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... Why Kasparov's suggestions are NEVER among the suggested books and why you don't inform people about the books that great player considers the best? ...

The exact details of an answer would depend on the specific situation, but a general point would be that my concern is a question that involves both a book and the person who may be reading it.

"... Just because a book contains lots of information that you don’t know, it doesn’t necessarily mean that it will be extremely helpful in making you better at this point in your chess development. ..." - Dan Heisman (2001)

Bishop_g5

"... Just because a book contains lots of information that you don’t know, it doesn’t necessarily mean that it will be extremely helpful in making you better at this point in your chess development. ..." - Dan Heisman (2001)

Exactly my point in post 128#

You are doing against what you allegate!

Kindaspongey, you don't understand how to use the power of information.

kindaspongey
Bishop_g5 wrote:

Take for example this thread : https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/colle-system-newbie-inaugurate-me

Suddenly a low rated player in openings and in chess general shows up asking a question about the Colle showing that he doesn't understand the difference from Koltanowsky and Zukertor and for him the Colle is one and the same...

He ask when in the Koltanowsky White plays b3? He doesn't ask advice for a book, he don't even mention if he needs a book.

Suddenly Kindaspongey shows up , giving a list of separated suggestion in the Colle and Zukertor that I doubt how many of them explain the fundamental difference between the Zukertor and Koltanowsky since the most of are repertoire books or individual to one of those subjects or they include the Zukertor as a part of the Repertoire. ...

It seems to me that such books might help a reader to understand why white might play b3 or c3, (depending on the book). Also, if a player has this sort of problem, it might be helpful to have a book with more explanation of whatever opening is chosen.

kindaspongey
Bishop_g5 wrote:

"... Just because a book contains lots of information that you don’t know, it doesn’t necessarily mean that it will be extremely helpful in making you better at this point in your chess development. ..." - Dan Heisman (2001)

Exactly my point in post 128#

You are doing against what you allegate!

Kindaspongey, you don't understand how to use the power of information.

I do not see anything in the quote to rule out the possibility that a book might be helpful.

Bishop_g5

No you are wrong! For a beginner it's impossible to understand fundamental differences in early strategic plans and pawn structures, unless there is a book that clarify the difference and explain at the same time the ideas of both openings like a parallel...

What you did in that thread had no meaning at all. The list you gave is reffering to each opening separate with out mentioning why both can't mixed their ideas at the same time.

The OP needs by him self to understand what of the books gave him in the list contains the right information for him , thing which is the same as difficult as the information he look about.

Let's say that he doesn't have the nessecary founds to buy on of those , but he can find the Killer Chess Opening repertoire only or the Zuke'em all .

He is doomed to do not understand anything from the information he will read about, according to what he ask and don't understand.

kindaspongey
Bishop_g5 wrote:

... For a beginner it's impossible to understand fundamental differences in early strategic plans and pawn structures, unless there is a book that clarify the difference and explain at the same time the ideas of both openings like a parallel... ...

I am not aware of such a book.

kindaspongey
Bishop_g5 wrote:

... What you did in that thread had no meaning at all. The list you gave is reffering to each opening separate with out mentioning why both can't mixed their ideas at the same time. ...

It seems to me that the books had a reputation of helping the reader with one or the other of the possibilities.

kindaspongey
Bishop_g5 wrote:

... Let's say that he doesn't have the nessecary founds to buy on of those , but he can find the Killer Chess Opening repertoire only or the Zuke'em all ....

He is doomed to do not understand anything from the information he will read about, according to what he ask and don't understand.

I see no reason to doubt that the book would help the reader to play the opening covered in the book and no reason to doubt that the reader would value such a book. If I remember correctly, I mentioned a Starting Out book that might have been more helpful on the same opening.