Evan's gambit

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GSHAPIROY

My two favorite openings are probably the fried liver attack and the evans gambit (from black I like the sicilian defence 1. e4 c5).

I already posted the fried liver attack here, so now is the evans gambit:



DrSpudnik

1. When I play this line, Black often plays 7...Bb4+ instead of Bb6. In that case, Kf1 has proven a worthwhile effort for an advantage.

2. 8. d5 does not look convincing. Black has Na5 instead of Nb4, which will keep the White Knight from c3 on the next move. This makes the less committal and Bishop-blocking/e-pawn backwarizing 8. 0-0 look more appealing.

DrSpudnik

When Black takes the pawn, White gets a lot of play and stands a good chance. Declining the gambit is awkward for White to make headway.

DrSpudnik

Yes, but getting there is the fun part.

DrSpudnik

Problem solved! Laughing

GSHAPIROY
doduobird123 wrote:

I put the position into Rybka, it gives the position as dead equal! (0.00)

Well, I don't have to worry about this because I play the Sicilian!

What is Rybka?

chuckfloyd2011

In the above position it's black's turn. Why doesn't black just play NF3+?

After white plays Kg2 or kh1, black just plays Nd2 forking the rook on f1 and bishop on c4.

GSHAPIROY
chuckfloyd2011 wrote:

In the above position it's black's turn. Why doesn't black just play NF3+?

After white plays Kg2 or kh1, black just plays Nd2 forking the rook on f1 and bishop on c4.

What position?

12win1josh

Your evans gambit is wrong.

12win1josh

most people sac 2 pawns not one. White is aiming for development and the center. A lot of black players decline the 2nd pawn that is being sacirficed to them.

GSHAPIROY

Personally, I have taught my students to decline the gambit with 4...Bb6, which is about equal, but requires precise strategical play by both sides.

I like accepted better.

 


Aarnos

I would never play the Evans Gambit as White. Before starting to play in an Evans Gambit thematic I did try it once or twice but now that I've looked into it seriously it just seems that if Black knows what to do White is just going to be a pawn down for almost no compensation. For example



chuckfloyd2011
GSHAPIROY wrote:
chuckfloyd2011 wrote:

In the above position it's black's turn. Why doesn't black just play NF3+?

After white plays Kg2 or kh1, black just plays Nd2 forking the rook on f1 and bishop on c4.

What position?

The position you posted that ended with 16.f4.  Black will gain material.

GSHAPIROY
chuckfloyd2011 wrote:
GSHAPIROY wrote:
chuckfloyd2011 wrote:

In the above position it's black's turn. Why doesn't black just play NF3+?

After white plays Kg2 or kh1, black just plays Nd2 forking the rook on f1 and bishop on c4.

What position?

The position you posted that ended with 16.f4.  Black will gain material.

Where does black gain more material? e2 is doubly guarded so the knight cannot fork there

ViktorHNielsen
GSHAPIROY wrote:
chuckfloyd2011 wrote:
GSHAPIROY wrote:
chuckfloyd2011 wrote:

In the above position it's black's turn. Why doesn't black just play NF3+?

After white plays Kg2 or kh1, black just plays Nd2 forking the rook on f1 and bishop on c4.

What position?

The position you posted that ended with 16.f4.  Black will gain material.

Where does black gain more material? e2 is doubly guarded so the knight cannot fork there

But the Nf3-d2 manouvre gains the Exchange

chuckfloyd2011
GSHAPIROY wrote:
chuckfloyd2011 wrote:
GSHAPIROY wrote:
chuckfloyd2011 wrote:

In the above position it's black's turn. Why doesn't black just play NF3+?

After white plays Kg2 or kh1, black just plays Nd2 forking the rook on f1 and bishop on c4.

What position?

The position you posted that ended with 16.f4.  Black will gain material.

Where does black gain more material? e2 is doubly guarded so the knight cannot fork there

It's a 2 move combination. It's white's turn to move so white takes his knight on d4 and moves it to f3. While the black knight is now on f3, it is delivering check to white's king on g1. White has to move his king because he is in check. So white's king can only go to g2 or h1; pick one. Let's say the white king moves to g2. Now black's knight is being attacked by white's king. So black moves his knight away, and finds the d2 square to move to. Once the black knight is on d2 it is attacking the white bishop on c4 and the rook on f1.  White can't save them both! So most likely white will move the bishop and let black capture the rook on f1. That way white can at least recapture the black knight with his king or other rook.  Do you see it now?

Foridejack

I put it through the engine, it shows equal through two variations

GSHAPIROY
Foridejack wrote:

I put it through the engine, it shows equal through two variations

I'm not surprised