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chessisme1123

I enjoy playing gambits, but have not had very much success finding a good one, I play the scotch game now, but it still does not give me all the attacking possiblities I want. Please suggest an opening for me to play which sacrafices something for good attacking possibility, also please post the first moves of the opening Thanks :D 

chessisme1123

Well, I believe it is my opening choice really .. I can sustain a very strong attack, but I am usually down to much to really do anything with ... I used to play the king's gambit, if that is a good attacking opening, then I shall try to use a different style of play. Because I have had no success at all with it. 

Atos

The word gambit comes from the Italian dare il gambetto (to put a leg forward in order to trip someone). Doesn't necessarily suggest taking risks.

TheOldReb

Isnt tripping risky ?  Wink

Atos

It's tripping the opponent that is meant.

Atos
jemptymethod wrote:

Mental masturbation as usual.  Somebody named "GodsPawn" being a jerk and telling somebody they don't know what they're doing.  Then somebody else giving the literal etymology of a word as though that refutes what it's current meaning is.  

 


It may be its current meaning, but gambits don't necessarily involve risks. Queen's Gambit wasn't considered a wildly risky opening the last I checked.

TheOldReb

Gambits are fun to play but ofcourse they involve risk. They teach one to use advantages in time and/or  space, more active pieces etc.  Such advantages will often evaporate against skillful defense and the gambiteer is simply left down in material with a lost position. Spassky said that one of his trainers ( Tolush I believe) taught him to use such advantages by requiring of his youthful student to gambit at least a pawn in some of his games/tournaments and I believe this is where Spassky's fame/love for the king's gambit was born....  

Atos

The OP's question is anyway too general to enable a very helpful answer. Might as well Google gambits on the Web.

sjpdna

      chessisme1123, why don't you take a look into the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit (and it's many interesting variations)?  If played right, I think it may be able to provide the strong attack you desire. Below is the basic B.D. gambit.

 

     It normally continues ...dxe4, Nc3 Nf6, f3 exf3, Nxf3 (or Qxf3).  Of course, not all games follow this line.
TheOldReb

The queensgambit isnt really a gambit since after 2...dxc4 white can immediately recover the pawn with 3 Qa4+ if so inclined... I believe R Spielmann referred to such "gambits" as sham sacrifices or some such...... 

OP , the recommendation of Jempty to play the scotch gambit is a good one, you could also play the Goring gambit since you play the scotch and are wanting to gambit something. I have played both here and they are fun to play. 

trigs

scotch gambit is good. i like that one.

king's gambit is obviously the best choice (i'm currently writing a blog on various openings which can be found here).

i also like the goring gambit. one of my favorites.

TheOldReb

Even among gambits there are those that are considered far riskier than others. The king's gambit is considered much more risky than say the marshall counter attack of the Ruy...... for example. 

chessisme1123

Thanks  for the help, I will try to play the scotch gambit, and look up the goring gambit. 

 

chessisme1123

I have looked at the evan's gambit and to be honest I don't like that one very much. 

pauix

My favourites are the Danish (very risky!) and the Blackmar-Diemer (specially against the Scandinavian and the Latvian (WARNING! USE WITH CAUTION!) as Black:

pathfinder416

Another vote for the Goring. It still has many unexplored paths.

NoMoreHats
Fezzik wrote:

The Danish doesn't score well at the master level. But Nunn's Chess Openings considers it to be "unclear", and it scores brilliantly well at the scholastic and "class" levels.

I consider the Danish to be under-appreciated. There are correspondence masters who score with it and it outperforms other openings in terms of relative rating gains. It's an excellent surprise weapon, especially against overly materialistic opponents.

I wouldn't play the Danish against a prepared master, but I have shown it to my students as an interesting gambit. Even players who think they are prepared for it often lose to it. And again, theoretically, it's considered unclear, not obviously bad.


 I don't understand how you can speak in terms of practicality (i.e., that the Danish is maybe not so bad since in club tournaments and such, it actually scores quite well), when just a post or two before you dismissed the BDG offhandedly.

At the club and class level, the BDG kicks the ever living crap out of the Danish in terms of how well it scores for white.

Is it likely 100% sound?  No, probably not, though that has certainly never been concretely determined by any meaningful analysis.

But it's for damn sure a good path to choose for a career as an attacking player if your highest aspirations in chess don't involve contending for national titles and such.  It's particularly good if you aim to terrorize the local chessboards and push 3000 as a blitz player.

Dragec
Muzio for hardcore gambiteers? :-)
kohai

What you posted was inappropriate and a personal attack. Those aren't allowed in the forums.

gambit13

Most chess openings can be used to attack, gambits just attack earlier. If you look at statistics, gambits do poorly in long games and on master levels. Most gambits are unsound, and require the opponent to be of lesser skill to succeed. If you are looking for success in chess for long games, I would look waya from most gambits