good openings for black?

i have been having a hard time finding good openings for black, i know that this probally will get ignored but here are the openings i get most that i want to know how others play agianst

i pray this gets responces i really wanna know

I cannot tell you specifically the answer to your lines as I play something completely different, but in general, you cannot start off playing for a win with Black. It is equalize first. Try to draw the position. If White makes a major mistake, only then can you capitalize and try to win in the same manner that you try to win with White.

i play the scotch lol

i would say go bc5 or nf6 against it then play chess

italian, nf6 allows some exciting play after stuff like d4 or ng5

or then just try to equalise like thriller fan said

and ruy lopez theres a lot of stuff with different ideas for each side

against the london early c5 then maybe qb6 is good

and when white doesnt go c4, generally c5 is decent atleast for black in d4 d5 openings

or just play different first moves 

You are the better player so take my advice with some salt but I think Schmidt Scotch is much more fighting than Classical. And you will have to deal with the headache of Potter variation as well if you keep playing on Bc5.

Sicilian if they play e4. If they move the d4 pawn, don't capture it, and bring out your opposite knight instead. I like closed best though.

If they play d4, just do a declined queens gambit.

Usually anything else their either a master(in which you won't need this) or their some autistic monkey and you can play e4 and do like a black version of ruy lopez or something

Learn how to play before calling people autistic monkeys. Its just pot calling kettle black in your case. Thats not how you decline Smith-Morra. Your version just gives up the c pawn.

192.168.203.074

but actually though most people capture the free pawn, in which you develop your knight more, I've never seen a single person in my life play e5. Usually it goes like this

The guy you are giving advice is 1800. Surely another 1800 will give a kick to the knight before taking.

i love the sicilian, but you guys would be shocked how popular the setup im going to show is

Kinda concerning that you get weird nonsense even in that level. I had a Lichess account that was 1900 on correspondence, I have not getting a single Open Sicillian in all of my attempts. I just thought maybe Lichess 1900 is not that high Chess Com. Ugh.

yeah you dont get anyone playing theory untill 2000+

every so often you might get a najdorf of kan player but thats really all

Lol I suppose I am kinda part of the problem maining Morra. Its hard to switch for me after drawing so much blood with it though.

smith morra i think is kinda refuted, the Ne7-Ng6 line is very hard to play agianst

Lol this conversation again?

We can take a look at TCEC season 15 superfinal. Leela and Stockfish play each other and both games end in a draw. Leelas setup as black actually resembles what you suggest, while Stockfish prefers an early Na5. Results? Both games drawn.

https://www.tcec-chess.com/archive.html?season=15&div=sf&game=51

https://www.tcec-chess.com/archive.html?season=15&div=sf&game=52

I have checked later seasons and Morra hasn't been played again. I don't know why. Maybe it is refuted to a point that its not even shown in the games? I have to ask Matthew Sadler that one. Still, the point stands if top engines of 2019 couldn't manage to dent Morra.

But go ahaed if you wanna argue. In that case, you are either a demigod sandbagging as a 1800 or constipated. My guess is constipated.

I prefer the Malaniuk. The exchange variations of the Schmidt and the Classical score better for White than the normal Scotch and Classical variations, so 4... Bb4+ 5. c3 Bc5 would be my recommendation. White has to block the b1 knight's best square early, so the Nxc6 lines make much less sense, and meanwhile White gains nothing of value playing c3 early.

It takes a really really bad opening to not be drawn by engines. Chess seems to be a draw with best play, inaccuracies are what cause wins and losses, and the Smith-Morra isn't quite bad enough to be a loss with best play, but it is bad enough to allow Black a small advantage in the opening. That's the definition of 'refuted'. The Latvian is 'refuted' despite it most likely also being a draw with perfect play.

Latvian lost twice in TCEC superfinal season 18. Its busted. Not the point though.

Anyways, my apologies if thats what refutation means. I thought it meant totally losing. 

Basically the only openings which are automatically losing are suicide openings. There are other openings which are bad but still have to be played accurately in order to prove it. Modern engines have demonstrated that many openings, that were thought to be simply worse, can still hold with best play.

Basically the only way of playing the Morra is to take on d4. There basically no point of playing c5 if you are not going to take on d4. That's the point. After c3, then Nf6 is better transposing into a line of the Alapin. The best is to take on c3 and then play Nc6 and usually e6. You will be up a pawn and if you can defend and trade down then you will be better in the endgame. It's tricky though as it's basically a tactical minefield.