How many moves exactly is the longest opening of today !?

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nighteyes1234
ESP-918 wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:


 
Three games. Would you like me to show you 300 more?

 

You still didn't answer my question, I wasn't asking to show me any games I'm asking very straightforward question here HOW MANY MOVES !? Is the longest theory available today in the OPENING  !? 

Ahh...you want the sidelines included. Idk whats the longest then..something to the power of something to the power of something to the,etc.

 

rychessmaster1
ESP-918 wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:


 
Three games. Would you like me to show you 300 more?

 

You still didn't answer my question, I wasn't asking to show me any games I'm asking very straightforward question here HOW MANY MOVES !? Is the longest theory available today in the OPENING  !? 

If you can count, 16.

rychessmaster1

technically the theory probably goes a bit longer so maybe more

rychessmaster1
MISTER_McCHESS wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:
ESP-918 wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:


 
Three games. Would you like me to show you 300 more?

 

You still didn't answer my question, I wasn't asking to show me any games I'm asking very straightforward question here HOW MANY MOVES !? Is the longest theory available today in the OPENING  !? 

If you can count, 16.

and if i can't count?

1872 moves

ESP-918
rychessmaster1 wrote:

technically the theory probably goes a bit longer so maybe more

You are obviously not familiar with the subject at all.

16 moves of opening theory is NOTHING in 2020 ! Maybe 50-100 years ago it was very advanced theory , yes indeed , but now theory goes up to move 30 and it's STILL an OPENING , I'm just not sure it might be 35 moves or maybe even 40 moves possible now days, that's why I'm asking

2Ke21-0

The Polish Opening

sushiVolc

uhh something from ruy lopez probably

rychessmaster1
ESP-918 wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:

technically the theory probably goes a bit longer so maybe more

You are obviously not familiar with the subject at all.

16 moves of opening theory is NOTHING in 2020 ! Maybe 50-100 years ago it was very advanced theory , yes indeed , but now theory goes up to move 30 and it's STILL an OPENING , I'm just not sure it might be 35 moves or maybe even 40 moves possible now days, that's why I'm asking

There is not 40 moves of theory anywhere buddy

20-25 is max 

rychessmaster1

Also I’m way better than you buddy don’t act like I’m the idiot here 

KovenFan
ESP-918 wrote:
Marco wrote:


Panov Endgame Line. The resulting endgame has been analyzed to death and goes as deep as 30-40+ moves in, so it's a good candidate. 

 

My other guesses would be some of the sharp stuff(Najdorf, KID, etc) or something that has been played a lot for a long period of time e.g Ruy Lopez

I'm not talking about endgame line theory etc.....

I'm talking about JUST OPENING phase. 

You're right, I apologize.

I didn't read your problem properly to notice how absurd it was.

aMazeMove

who knows... maybe Chigorin defense in Spanish or Main line KID

Steven-ODonoghue
ESP-918 wrote:

I know before a computer era, an opening would usually last 10-15 moves deep and that's it ! After that Middle game began.

Now days it's hard to imagine, that an opening lasts just 10 moves deep , especially on top level chess.

So my question is : 

Basically we all know , that an openings now days last 20-25 moves easily, BUT what is the actual longest opening theory moves possible?  35 , 40 , 50 moves!? Maybe ? 

PLEASE DON'T just guess answer if you really know , thx in advance.

What a ridiculus question

ESP-918
rychessmaster1 wrote:

Also I’m way better than you buddy don’t act like I’m the idiot here 

If you think 20-25 moves is max moves of opening theory today (2020) , it means you know nothing about chess.

Yes 20-25 moves is alot!  Sure ! But MAX !? NO! 

I know for sure that 29-30 moves is possible easily, I'm just not sure if it's max or it might be 32 moves or 33 moves or maybe even 35 moves .

 

ESP-918
rychessmaster1 wrote:

Also I’m way better than you buddy don’t act like I’m the idiot here 

Better then me at what?  I'm curious?  Chess skills?  General knowledge?  

First of all by general chess knowledge I'm obviously superior to you, I mean if you think 16 moves of opening theory is a max come on ! Then you say or maybe 20 or maybe this or maybe that nice guessing game buddy.

If you are talking about my rating and my chess skills and you are stating the fact that you are better then me , let me ask you one question, how do you know?  Did you play me ?  No !? Oh I see you continue your guessing game here.....

rychessmaster1
ESP-918 wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:

Also I’m way better than you buddy don’t act like I’m the idiot here 

Better then me at what?  I'm curious?  Chess skills?  General knowledge?  

First of all by general chess knowledge I'm obviously superior to you, I mean if you think 16 moves of opening theory is a max come on ! Then you say or maybe 20 or maybe this or maybe that nice guessing game buddy.

If you are talking about my rating and my chess skills and you are stating the fact that you are better then me , let me ask you one question, how do you know?  Did you play me ?  No !? Oh I see you continue your guessing game here.....

Would you like to take that to the test

rychessmaster1
ESP-918 wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:

Also I’m way better than you buddy don’t act like I’m the idiot here 

If you think 20-25 moves is max moves of opening theory today (2020) , it means you know nothing about chess.

Yes 20-25 moves is alot!  Sure ! But MAX !? NO! 

I know for sure that 29-30 moves is possible easily, I'm just not sure if it's max or it might be 32 moves or 33 moves or maybe even 35 moves .

 

fine then if you are so smart then you should be able to answer your own question

rychessmaster1
infestationPit wrote:

Semi-Slav Botvinnik has the most extensive theory. 

Haha your thread goes bye bye 

rychessmaster1
gmnotreally2001 wrote:

Well 30 moves of theory are quite a lot in really complex openings. But i think super GMs know lines of the Berlin wall till move 30.

thats not opening theory according to this guy because its an endgame

ESP-918
rychessmaster1 wrote:
ESP-918 wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:

Also I’m way better than you buddy don’t act like I’m the idiot here 

Better then me at what?  I'm curious?  Chess skills?  General knowledge?  

First of all by general chess knowledge I'm obviously superior to you, I mean if you think 16 moves of opening theory is a max come on ! Then you say or maybe 20 or maybe this or maybe that nice guessing game buddy.

If you are talking about my rating and my chess skills and you are stating the fact that you are better then me , let me ask you one question, how do you know?  Did you play me ?  No !? Oh I see you continue your guessing game here.....

Would you like to take that to the test

Any time

ESP-918
rychessmaster1 wrote:
infestationPit wrote:

Semi-Slav Botvinnik has the most extensive theory. 

See this guy agrees with me

I never said it's wrong or anything like that , but my question and my thread was NOT name an opening or show your name knowledge etc.... I specifically asked how many moves !?