Is 1. Nc3 e5 2. f4 worth playing?
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As the title says. I saw this opening somewhere and found it interesting, and am curious if it is any good to play.
Well, my thought is if they play 2... exf4 you’ve moved their e-pawn away from the center, and if they don’t your f-pawn helps control the center.
Feb 5, 2019
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Legotiger wrote:
Well, my thought is if they play 2... exf4 you’ve moved their e-pawn away from the center, and if they don’t your f-pawn helps control the center.
How are you developing the lsb? I don’t think you’re keeping the 2 centre pawns.
Seems better to play e4 before f4.
Is an opening 'worth playing?
Well any opening is worth playing as long you know it (to some degree) and you know who you are playing and in what circumstances
followthebuzzard wrote:
Is an opening 'worth playing?
Well any opening is worth playing as long you know it (to some degree) and you know who you are playing and in what circumstances
Whats the circumstance for this opening? When you really need a loss?
Scottrf wrote:
followthebuzzard wrote:
Is an opening 'worth playing?
Well any opening is worth playing as long you know it (to some degree) and you know who you are playing and in what circumstances
Whats the circumstance for this opening? When you really need a loss?
How did you get such a rating and an understanding of chess to produce such a myopic answer?
It’s a horrendous opening for white.
Feb 5, 2019
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At the OP's level that opening is perfectly playable. But i also think its kinda like the 4 move mate we all learned, and thought would work for ever. You have to know when to move on.
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So is giving up a knight probably but it has no redeeming qualities over e4 then f4 ie a Vienna game, but causes big problems and makes white significantly worse instantly.
Can you please elaborate on how this likely leads to giving up a knight?
It doesn’t, but how are you developing your light squared bishop?
With control of the center you can easily play e3 or e4, allowing you to develop the light-squared bishop.
You can’t because they both just drop a pawn for no compensation. And also the diagonal to your king is exposed.
The compensation in this case would be a positional advantage, no? Is there just something I’m not seeing?
@DamonevicSmithlov I’d say it’s the latter.
Legotiger wrote:
The compensation in this case would be a positional advantage, no? Is there just something I’m not seeing?
Normally when you give up a pawn you develop a lot quicker. White can’t here. And Qh4 is a threat.
So the way I see it you’ll end up with something like this with 2... exf4:
https://www.chess.com/explorer?moveList=Nc3+e5+f4+exf4+Nf3+Qh4++g3&ply=7&origMoves=Nc3+e5+f4+exf4+Nf3+Qh4++g3
Or something like this:
https://www.chess.com/explorer?moveList=Nc3+e5+f4+Nc6+fxe5+Nxe5+d4&ply=7&origMoves=Nc3+e5+f4+exf4+Nf3+Qh4++g3
Both of these seem better for white.
https://www.chess.com/explorer?moveList=Nc3+e5+f4+exf4+Nf3+Qh4++g3&ply=7&origMoves=Nc3+e5+f4+exf4+Nf3+Qh4++g3
Or something like this:
https://www.chess.com/explorer?moveList=Nc3+e5+f4+Nc6+fxe5+Nxe5+d4&ply=7&origMoves=Nc3+e5+f4+exf4+Nf3+Qh4++g3
Both of these seem better for white.