Is anything better for me than the Parham?

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13.0-0 Kg7 folowed by ...Rf8 is an easy advantage for Black: Two bishops and better pawn structure, while the king is absolutely safe on g7- after all, white cannot attack with a lone queen.

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White could still manuver his knights over and attack. Black's king has a fairly exposed pawn structure, although he does have the bishop pair, white's king is safe. But congratulations pfren, in 40 pages you are the first one to find a line where black doesn't lose material!

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Attack where? White should just try to save his ass- he is quite worse.

Black can play pretty much anything and have an equal game against the Fartham attack.

This is not the point though- I am claiming that the early ...Na5 idea, as played in that game or even one move earlier, gives Black a small advantage.

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Personally, I'd like to move d3 earlier. If you play Nbc3 early, Nb4 can screw you over.

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Nb4 - what for?

It's supposedly only White the one who aimlessly wanders his pieces, not both players.

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After Nb4, white would have to do Bb3, then black, who should've already played d6, can do Be6, and white is pretty much screwed.

And BruceBenedict, I assume you mean 2...Nf6, in which case black gives up a pawn to let himself be attacked by white.

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I'm not so sure about that...

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The gambit is a little rediculous, but I like chasing about my opponents queen like its a really hot girl

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Your plan sounds great, but has a little flaw: White can move too, actually there is a new rule of chess which says only one move at a time is allowed. So: 6.Nbc3 Nb4 7.Bb3 d6 7.a3 and the knight has to go back. Funnily enough Black may still be equal, which shows how "dangerous" the Fartham is.

2...Nf6 is a good move, but I think it just gives enough for the pawn. I prefer what I've already claimed- equal pawns, two bishops, easy and solid game.

I think you don't need an opening, but rather a course on the absolute basics of chess strategy- you obviously either ignore them, or have never heard about them.

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Here's the most comon line I see:

BTW, whatupyodog beat an FM who played the kiddie counter-gambit.

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Actually, black should've played d6 previously, if you read my post.

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Yes, I have read your post, and understood the obvious: You are horribly, and probably hopelessly, confused.

The game you have in mind is not chess, but some other fictitious game. Just invent it's rules, and then you can be the first World Champion.

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? I don't see how. Here's a sample:



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pfren wrote:

Yes, I have read your post, and understood the obvious: You are horribly, and probably hopelessly, confused.

The game you have in mind is not chess, but some other fictitious game. Just invent it's rules, and then you can be the first World Champion.

I like you alot. I award you the title of russian, wear it proudly.

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The_Gavinator, this is cooperative chess.

White has nothing to fear from ...Bg4. He can simply play 7.d3, when that ...Nb4 and ...Be6 nonsense doesn't work. Maybe something like 7.d3 Nb4 8.Bb3 Bg4 9.Qg3 Be6 is better, but still I see no advantage for Black. I repeat that I'm not interested finding equality for Black, this is very easy.

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7. d3 Bg4, then what? Black can do Nb4 and transpose into the lines above.

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Helzeth wrote:
pfren wrote:

Yes, I have read your post, and understood the obvious: You are horribly, and probably hopelessly, confused.

The game you have in mind is not chess, but some other fictitious game. Just invent it's rules, and then you can be the first World Champion.

I like you alot. I award you the title of russian, wear it proudly.

roflmao, you, stalin,and vlad Lenin can all go kill a bunch of political dissenters in a bunch of cold God forsaken Gulags in the middle of Siberia while we americans make it to the moon before you all.

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Lol, the Soviet's were owning the cold war, America got lucky. They fell apart inernally. America's essentially socialist now, approaching communist, so it don't matter.

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7...Bg4 8.Qg3 is equal. Factly, this is the way the game Nakamura- Sasikiran proceeded. Black won, but not because he was slaughtered in the opening.

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jetfighter13 wrote:
Helzeth wrote:
pfren wrote:

Yes, I have read your post, and understood the obvious: You are horribly, and probably hopelessly, confused.

The game you have in mind is not chess, but some other fictitious game. Just invent it's rules, and then you can be the first World Champion.

I like you alot. I award you the title of russian, wear it proudly.

roflmao, you, stalin,and vlad Lenin can all go kill a bunch of political dissenters in a bunch of cold God forsaken Gulags in the middle of Siberia while we americans make it to the moon before you all.

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