Is Danish Gambit the most aggressive opening as white.

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sianeek

its hard to say


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IMKeto

You lost to a 1018 player in 7 moves:

https://www.chess.com/livechess/game?id=2680885664

Trying to be "agressive" is the last thing you should be doing.

6...Bc3? is wrong.

7...Qg5?? is horrible.

8.g3 is UGLY.  The whole idea of an opening like this is rapid development.  

9.f3?? made me throw up in my mouth.

Im taking black every single time.  

DocAhmed9109
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kindaspongey

"... When you first begin serious competition, play sharp openings so that you can strengthen your tactics. ...
More experienced players should play the openings that they either know best or are attempting to learn. The key is that you should look up your game in an opening book later so that you can confidently answer the question: 'What, if anything, would I do differently next time if an opponent made all the same moves?' This is an excellent way to strengthen your mental 'opening database', especially if you play frequently. ..." - NM Dan Heisman (2002)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627052239/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman16.pdf

RathminesRampager

3...d5 kills the Danish.

bigmac30

go for centre game instead Morozevich plays and a fairly local IM Rudd has one a few games with it

danish is too lose really the Centre game has similar pirc 150 attack positions in it

TwoMove
kindaspongey wrote:

"... When you first begin serious competition, play sharp openings so that you can strengthen your tactics. ...

 

That's not so bad advise wish I spun the peices a bit more when younger and developed imagination a bit.

IMKeto
BobbyTalparov wrote:
sianeek wrote:

its hard to say


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The Danish is aggressive, but not all that threatening beyond the 1000-level.  The reason is simple:

 

 

And a 3 vs. 1 queenside pawn majority.  

Passed pawn(s)s here they come!

KeSetoKaiba

The Danish Gambit is a really ancient line, but it needs to be taken seriously. Usually if I am Black, I never accept this Gambit as far as to get three pawns; I usually only take one pawn and get into the Sorensen Defense. If Black knows theory, White's attack can "fizzle" (as post #3 points out).

However, the forum asks if it is White's most "aggressive" line (not how "good" or " sound" the opening is - or is not). "It's hard to say" is correct. Yes this Gambit seems aggressive, but personally I like other bold attempts by White more than this one - such as the King's Indian Attack (which is probably more solid anyway). Of course, let us not forget other "aggressive" openings such as 1.g4 and other oddities. I find these openings even more aggressive because if the opponent knows the uncommon lines White may need to go "all out" with a "crash and burn - or succeed" attitude. These odd starts like 1.g4 create obvious weaknesses (in this case exposing the Kingside on move number 1 causing O-O to be no longer a possibility, or at least not one without some risks. My point is not to slam 1.g4 (as it has some ideas with it) but rather to show other "aggressive" attempts by White; I know that many strong GMs have occasionally used rare openings like 1.g4 - I am merely stating that in some ways (even if primarily psychological) other openings are more aggressive.

IMKeto
KeSetoKaiba wrote:

The Danish Gambit is a really ancient line, but it needs to be taken seriously. Usually if I am Black, I never accept this Gambit as far as to get three pawns; I usually only take one pawn and get into the Sorensen Defense. If Black knows theory, White's attack can "fizzle" (as post #3 points out).

However, the forum asks if it is White's most "aggressive" line (not how "good" or " sound" the opening is - or is not). "It's hard to say" is correct. Yes this Gambit seems aggressive, but personally I like other bold attempts by White more than this one - such as the King's Indian Attack (which is probably more solid anyway). Of course, let us not forget other "aggressive" openings such as 1.g4 and other oddities. I find these openings even more aggressive because if the opponent knows the uncommon lines White may need to go "all out" with a "crash and burn - or succeed" attitude. These odd starts like 1.g4 create obvious weaknesses (in this case exposing the Kingside on move number 1 causing O-O to be no longer a possibility, or at least not one without some risks. My point is not to slam 1.g4 (as it has some ideas with it) but rather to show other "aggressive" attempts by White; I know that many strong GMs have occasionally used rare openings like 1.g4 - I am merely stating that in some ways (even if primarily psychological) other openings are more aggressive.

There is nothing "agressive" about 1.g4.  I know a Master that plays it, because he plays the English, and 1.g4 saves him a tempo later in the game.

KeSetoKaiba

Thank you FishEyedFools, but this would be included in my portion (that you quoted) about "as it has some ideas with it" as well as me mentioning how sometimes being aggressive is "primarily psychological". 1.g4 is just the first "uncommon" example that came to mind. This could easily be substituted with 1.h4 or anything else that many unprepared players may be caught off guard by. Of course, even GMs have played such moves - I am simply expressing the thought, "are they more aggressive?" (Than the Danish Gambit)

IMKeto
KeSetoKaiba wrote:

Thank you FishEyedFools, but this would be included in my portion (that you quoted) about "as it has some ideas with it" as well as me mentioning how sometimes being aggressive is "primarily psychological". 1.g4 is just the first "uncommon" example that came to mind. This could easily be substituted with 1.h4 or anything else that many unprepared players may be caught off guard by. Of course, even GMs have played such moves - I am simply expressing the thought, "are they more aggressive?" (Than the Danish Gambit)

I understand what youre saying, but again...there is nothing "agressive" about 1.g4.  I wish beginners/low rated players qould quit using "agressive", and "tactical" They are flung around relentlessly, and not even in the correct context.

EndgameEnthusiast2357

I like to combine gambits, like the scotch and the danish..etc. They probably have defenses though. and if it fails, being TWO pawns down doesn't help!

batgirl

Here's a 2 part article on the origins of this opening:

https://www.chess.com/article/view/the-northern-gambit 
https://www.chess.com/article/view/the-northern-gambit-ii 

batgirl
pfren wrote:

 

Good work!

I thank you and Dr. Lindehn thanks you.

1NF1DEL
My fave!
SillyDuffer

The title of the video is misleading, but here's a line that seems to take the aggression out of the opening.

sianeek

ok

 

congrandolor
BobbyTalparov wrote:
sianeek wrote:

its hard to say


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The Danish is aggressive, but not all that threatening beyond the 1000-level.  The reason is simple:

 

 

Why not 8-Ne2 instead Nf3? then if 8...d5 you can take with the pawn as it is not pinned.

lopamudranag

ok.This indeed a very good opening.really this  my fovourite opening...many many thanks for giving me the full line of this opening..really very good.

ok