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Is pirc defense still reliable?

KahanDesai
  • Hey guys, So I have been wondering since a long time, lemme know if you think pirc is still a reliable opening to play?
  • if not, till what rating slab is it still okay to play??
  • In what kind of time format is it effective and what kind of time-format is it bad to play??
  • Also, try and discuss the drawbacks?



darkunorthodox88

its still playable, and still hard to play lol. So its just there, waiting to be used by chess mavericks. Like other secondary defenses, it gives white a bit too many choices that are still advantageous. 

KahanDesai
darkunorthodox88 wrote:

its still playable, and still hard to play lol. So its just there, waiting to be used by chess mavericks. Like other secondary defenses, it gives white a bit too many choices that are still advantageous. 

So is it like , HARD TO PLAY or SECONDARY

What do you mean, is it like we are not strong or opening is not strong?

darkunorthodox88
KahanDesai wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:

its still playable, and still hard to play lol. So its just there, waiting to be used by chess mavericks. Like other secondary defenses, it gives white a bit too many choices that are still advantageous. 

So is it like , HARD TO PLAY or SECONDARY

What do you mean, is it like we are not strong or opening is not strong?

secondary openings are those that are rarely seen at the highest level of play (or at least strong master level). Pirc is a relatively rare defense, and the reason it is so is because it gives white a slightly larger opening advantage, but it also allows white to play with a lot of leeway and still get a small edge, some of the lines for black are also quite dangerous and black must do a lot of homework to be ok.

so its just there, usually only gets played every once in a rare while as a must-win defense for black.

darkunorthodox88
StarSand wrote:

Pirc is very much playable. Maybe not the best defense out there but there are many GM's who use pirc. Pirc often results to very complicated strategic battles & due to more space, White maintains a stable edge but black's chances are no less. I think it's not the best but if u want to play it u can and it can be used against even 2500s fide if u know the pirc very well. One of the players who used pirc is Yasser Seirwan. If u want to learn the opening study his games & the Grandmaster Preparation book is recommended for serious tournament play. 

Hope that answers most of your doubt !

you can play it agaisnt even stronger people, its just you will not find any super GM that uses it as a reliable weapon. The irony of a lot of secondary openings (and doubly so for black!) is that someone can prepare some long line agaisnt you, and since many of these positions in critical lines follow very narrow paths with relatively few options for black to remain ok, they can out-prepare you and leave you miserable or even knock you out early.

this is why Even top players that play stuff like this, its usually in a very broad repertoire, and only once in a while. You have to make your top tier opponents, think twice before they bother to out study you in some narrow line. It's also why they are better for tournaments than match play.

pirc42

I play pirc in 95% against 1. e4. Its enough to get an Elo of 2100. Main Reason is: Black mostly knows what to do, White often knows just some ideas, cause White has to play seldom vs pirc-defense. A guy who plays 1.e4 is mostly looking for e5, c5 or c6, not much are prepared for d6.

IMBacon
KahanDesai wrote:
  • Hey guys, So I have been wondering since a long time, lemme know if you think pirc is still a reliable opening to play?
  • if not, till what rating slab is it still okay to play??
  • In what kind of time format is it effective and what kind of time-format is it bad to play??
  • Also, try and discuss the drawbacks?



For the 99+% of us?  Its perfectly playable.

rishabh11great

"The only playable opening is the Sicillian, it leaves no weaknesses in Black's camp." - Rishabh (@Rishabh11Great)

vishnu_vijay_93
rishabh11great wrote:

"The only playable opening is the Sicillian, it leaves no weaknesses in Black's camp." - Rishabh (@Rishabh11Great)

That's the overstatement of the year

rishabh11great
vishnu_vijay_93 wrote:
rishabh11great wrote:

"The only playable opening is the Sicillian, it leaves no weaknesses in Black's camp." - Rishabh (@Rishabh11Great)

That's the overstatement of the year

ok idc, thats just the truth

vishnu_vijay_93
rishabh11great wrote:
vishnu_vijay_93 wrote:
rishabh11great wrote:

"The only playable opening is the Sicillian, it leaves no weaknesses in Black's camp." - Rishabh (@Rishabh11Great)

That's the overstatement of the year

ok idc, thats just the truth

I would have accepted it if it had come from a strong player wink.png

rishabh11great
vishnu_vijay_93 wrote:

I would have accepted it if it had come from a strong player

ok

rishabh11great

Garry Kasparov.

vishnu_vijay_93

First of all,Sicilian is very double edged,saying that it has no weaknesses is wrong,when u play the Sicilian u have slow development and a weak kingside which is prone to attack. If these are not weaknesses I don't know what are

vishnu_vijay_93
rishabh11great wrote:

Garry Kasparov.

If Garry said Sicilian leaves no weaknesses in blacks camp I would have left chess

rishabh11great
vishnu_vijay_93 wrote:

First of all,Sicilian is very double edged,saying that it has no weaknesses is wrong,when u play the Sicilian u have slow development and a weak kingside which is prone to attack. If these are not weaknesses I don't know what are

ok but it is atleast better than others, MUCH BETTER

rishabh11great
vishnu_vijay_93 wrote:
rishabh11great wrote:

Garry Kasparov.

If Garry said Sicilian leaves no weaknesses in blacks camp I would have left chess

Fischer said, "1e4, best by test", ok so ur wish now if u want to leave, sorry for trolling xD happy.png

vishnu_vijay_93
rishabh11great wrote:
vishnu_vijay_93 wrote:

First of all,Sicilian is very double edged,saying that it has no weaknesses is wrong,when u play the Sicilian u have slow development and a weak kingside which is prone to attack. If these are not weaknesses I don't know what are

ok but it is atleast better than others, MUCH BETTER

No opening is better than any other,each opening has its perks and weaknesses

vishnu_vijay_93
rishabh11great wrote:
vishnu_vijay_93 wrote:
rishabh11great wrote:

Garry Kasparov.

If Garry said Sicilian leaves no weaknesses in blacks camp I would have left chess

Fischer said, "1e4, best by test", ok so ur wish now if u want to leave, sorry for trolling xD

Fischer was a madman

vishnu_vijay_93
rishabh11great wrote:
vishnu_vijay_93 wrote:
rishabh11great wrote:

Garry Kasparov.

If Garry said Sicilian leaves no weaknesses in blacks camp I would have left chess

Fischer said, "1e4, best by test", ok so ur wish now if u want to leave, sorry for trolling xD

And I never said I would leave for Fischer saying stuff like these.