Is QGD Best for Post-Beginner to Learn?

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Preggo_Basashi
kindaspongey wrote:
Year1993 wrote:

Finally, I come up with my personal favorite opening.

Against 1.e4 except Ruy, I will use Four Knights. ...

After 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nf6, even if White does not play 3 Bb5, Black can not depend on being able to play a Four Knights Game. After 3 Bc4, Black is able to choose the two knights defence.

Not to mention he'll need something for the italian, scotch, and maybe a few minor lines like ponzioni plus other white 2nd moves like the king's gambit and vienna.

But that can come with time.

kindaspongey
Year1993 wrote:

… QGD by Matthew Sadler discuss and connect the themes of the most popular choices of Black against 1.d4, especially the isolani. ...

"written mainly from Black's point of view." https://web.archive.org/web/20140708234438/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen15.txt

Usually, when an opening book is "written mainly from Black's point of view", it can not be expected to reliably cover the most popular choices of Black.

RussBell
kindaspongey wrote:

 

Usually, when an opening book is "written mainly from Black's point of view", it can not be expected to reliably cover the most popular choices of Black.

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Quasimorphy
RussBell wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:

 

Usually, when an opening book is "written mainly from Black's point of view", it can not be expected to reliably cover the most popular choices of Black.

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I think what he's getting at is that opening books written from Black's point of view are of limited value to the White side because they tend to focus on just a few variations.

dannyhume
I think kindaspongey meant that a Black repertoire book usually limits its coverage at a node usually to a single move choice for Black, then covers White’s responses ... a repertoire book from the point of view for Black would cover the author’s preferred choice for Black to his/her audience to the exclusion of other playable choices for Black.
AnhVanT
dannyhume wrote:
I think kindaspongey meant that a Black repertoire book usually limits its coverage at a node usually to a single move choice for Black, then covers White’s responses ... a repertoire book from the point of view for Black would cover the author’s preferred choice for Black to his/her audience to the exclusion of other playable choices for Black.

 

I have no better choice regarding $$$. So, I have to be cheap and use that book for both sides, although it is for Black T.T

kindaspongey
Year1993 wrote:
dannyhume wrote:
I think kindaspongey meant that a Black repertoire book usually limits its coverage at a node usually to a single move choice for Black, then covers White’s responses ... a repertoire book from the point of view for Black would cover the author’s preferred choice for Black to his/her audience to the exclusion of other playable choices for Black.

 

I have no better choice regarding $$$. So, I have to be cheap and use that book for both sides, although it is for Black T.T

Might be easier to go for a four knights game as white.

AnhVanT
kindaspongey wrote:
Year1993 wrote:
dannyhume wrote:
I think kindaspongey meant that a Black repertoire book usually limits its coverage at a node usually to a single move choice for Black, then covers White’s responses ... a repertoire book from the point of view for Black would cover the author’s preferred choice for Black to his/her audience to the exclusion of other playable choices for Black.

 

I have no better choice regarding $$$. So, I have to be cheap and use that book for both sides, although it is for Black T.T

Might be easier to go for a four knights game as white.

I will stop playing online chess for a month to focus on tactics and drills. I learned the openings and had no problem with it. Now, it is time to focus on the middlegame and the endgame.

kindaspongey
Year1993 wrote: "... As White, I will try to learn the general theme of QGD. ... QGD by Matthew Sadler discuss and connect the themes of the most popular choices of Black against 1.d4, especially the isolani. ..."
FM Carsten Hansen wrote that the Sadler book was "written mainly from Black's point of view."
Year1993 wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:
Year1993 wrote:
dannyhume wrote:
I think kindaspongey meant that a Black repertoire book usually limits its coverage at a node usually to a single move choice for Black, then covers White’s responses ... a repertoire book from the point of view for Black would cover the author’s preferred choice for Black to his/her audience to the exclusion of other playable choices for Black.

I have no better choice regarding $$$. So, I have to be cheap and use that book for both sides, although it is for Black T.T

Might be easier to go for a four knights game as white.

I will stop playing online chess for a month to focus on tactics and drills. I learned the openings and had no problem with it. Now, it is time to focus on the middlegame and the endgame.

I have no objection to a middlegame-endgame focus. I am just trying to warn you that using a four knights book for white preparation might work better than using the Sadler QGD book for white preparation.

torrubirubi
Year1993 wrote:

I read some comments here and there (not an article) that QGD is best for post-beginner to learn chess because it can be positional or sharp. If this statement is true, what is the most common lines for positional play or tactical play? Thanks

It is okay.  I mean, I often teach the QG so beginners can already have some ideas how to attack a pawn chain,  and the idea behind 2.c4 instead of 2.N3.

torrubirubi
torrubirubi wrote:
Year1993 wrote:

I read some comments here and there (not an article) that QGD is best for post-beginner to learn chess because it can be positional or sharp. If this statement is true, what is the most common lines for positional play or tactical play? Thanks

It is okay.  I mean, I often teach the QG so beginners can already have some ideas how to attack a pawn chain,  and the idea behind 2.c4 instead of 2.N3.

I also defend the not so popular idea that you don't need an IM title to begin to learn a basic opening repertoire. The trick is to learn openings at the same time you improve tactics and endgame. 20 percent opening, 10 percent endgame and the rest of the time tactics. 

helloardanish

Use knight for defence in opening they're best happy.png

helloardanish

We can repeat some move to attack on center.

helloardanish

e4 or d4 is the best opening. I've seen most of GM game and they all do the same happy.png

helloardanish

Bird opening is also good happy.png

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Godsoriginalfool

I don't mean to go OFF TOPIC but I read the title as GOD (I am fully dislexic) and came here to tell you religious topics are not allowed in the main fora. Laughing. 

 

As far as the QGD....to take is a mistake. 

helloardanish
Godsoriginalfool wrote:

I don't mean to go OFF TOPIC but I read the title as GOD (I am fully dislexic) and came here to tell you religious topics are not allowed in the main fora. Laughing. 

 

As far as the QGD....to take is a mistake. 

It's not a mistake. Depends on the opponent

helloardanish

It's also a good opening happy.png

torrubirubi
Godsoriginalfool wrote:

I don't mean to go OFF TOPIC but I read the title as GOD (I am fully dislexic) and came here to tell you religious topics are not allowed in the main fora. Laughing. 

 

As far as the QGD....to take is a mistake. 

To take the pawn is not a mistake, but trying to keep the pawn is one of the most common ways beginners blunder in the QGA.