Is The Bongcloud good?

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drmrboss
Soniasthetics wrote:
Kiy0hime wrote:
Soniasthetics wrote:
Kiy0hime wrote:
Soniasthetics wrote:

So sad seeing legendary old posts be ruined by little 12 year old attention seekers 

 

 

There are many 12 year olds that can destroy you in chess.  

That has nothing to do with the original post.

 

And neither does your gripe about people "ruining" the post.  

And neither is ur input. 

 

LOL.as useless as this? . tongue.png

Protul12

Okay, so what are the reasons for telling the Bongcloud good where it's the worst opening? 

Protul12

Playing the Bongcloud destroys your chance of casting- you need to the artificial castle. It also makes your king vulnerable and also blocks the Queen and the Kingside Bishop from moving. 

Protul12
little_guinea_pig wrote:

1. King activity

2. A prophylactic move that prevents you from moving either the bishop or queen out too early

3. defends the d3 and f3 squares, which are weak after e4.

Ludicrous + Absurd reasons. I just become (!!) by seeing these comments. 

Protul12
little_guinea_pig wrote:

I'll play some live games with you if you want to prove you wrong (unrated plz)

 Engines, especially NNUE Stockfish evaluates this is a worse opening.

Protul12
Protul12 wrote:
little_guinea_pig wrote:

1. King activity

2. A prophylactic move that prevents you from moving either the bishop or queen out too early

3. defends the d3 and f3 squares, which are weak after e4.

Ludicrous + Absurd reasons. I just become (!!) by seeing these comments. 

-2.21. Plus, "A prophylactic move". (!!). WHAT!!. You have risks to be skewered. Actually

Protul12
little_guinea_pig wrote:

engines can't evaluate it properly because their programmers coded in king activity as a bad thing when it's not.

It's not the thing of King activity. King activity is needed in endgames, where you can guard your pieces. 

Protul12

It can't be captured, but it can be skewered and checked and checkmated. Plus, the KING IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE, NOT THE MOST POWERFUL PIECE. The Queen is the most powerful. The King is more important than a knight or Bishop, but less powerful than them. OKAY?

hypermuddish

The king can go on a peace campaign on the other side and the game will be a draw.

Protul12

But you lose a tempo.

hypermuddish

chill it's just a meme lol, and why shouldn't you be promoting the bongcloud, as you would crush the then numerous people who play the bongcloud against you? :/

Protul12

That's good.

Siddharth20112014

Absolutely NO,the king should be active in the endgame NOT,the middlegame or opening you will probably never see a GM play the bongcloud(unless you're Hikaru Nakamura) and you will probably never see a player playing the bongcloud unless you are facing a 0 rated player,or if you are watching Nigel Short vs. Jan Tinman where Short masterminded a brilliant king March forcing Tinman to resign (But Short didn't play the bongcloud) still the bongcloud is very bad opening.

IsraeliGal

no

 

drmrboss
Soniasthetics wrote:

no

 

snow
Siddharth20112014 wrote:

Absolutely NO,the king should be active in the endgame NOT,the middlegame or opening you will probably never see a GM play the bongcloud(unless you're Hikaru Nakamura) and you will probably never see a player playing the bongcloud unless you are facing a 0 rated player,or if you are watching Nigel Short vs. Jan Tinman where Short masterminded a brilliant king March forcing Tinman to resign (But Short didn't play the bongcloud) still the bongcloud is very bad opening.

magnus carlsen  also did it against hikaru 

IsraeliGal
drmrboss wrote:
Soniasthetics wrote:

no

 

 

Man thought he was being slick aye

 

AunTheKnight

No.

Protul12
Siddharth20112014 wrote:

Absolutely NO,the king should be active in the endgame NOT,the middlegame or opening you will probably never see a GM play the bongcloud(unless you're Hikaru Nakamura) and you will probably never see a player playing the bongcloud unless you are facing a 0 rated player,or if you are watching Nigel Short vs. Jan Tinman where Short masterminded a brilliant king March forcing Tinman to resign (But Short didn't play the bongcloud) still the bongcloud is very bad opening.

Yes. You are correct.

Protul12
garbagem8 wrote:
Siddharth20112014 wrote:

Absolutely NO,the king should be active in the endgame NOT,the middlegame or opening you will probably never see a GM play the bongcloud(unless you're Hikaru Nakamura) and you will probably never see a player playing the bongcloud unless you are facing a 0 rated player,or if you are watching Nigel Short vs. Jan Tinman where Short masterminded a brilliant king March forcing Tinman to resign (But Short didn't play the bongcloud) still the bongcloud is very bad opening.

magnus carlsen  also did it against hikaru 

ik. that was a very interesting match. hikaru just copied magnus' moves. and result = draw!