is the Caro-Kann advance Botvinnik-Carls (as black) playable??

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LoucoVarrido
hello guys, I like the caro-kann but in the advance variation white has a lot of good options (like in the short variation I can't find a good line, the shirov, the Tal h4, g4). So I'm thinking in change to the Botvinnik-Carls variation 3.c5, is it a good option? is it playable? the variations with white playing 4.dxc5 and trying to hold the pawn looks dangerous for black thank you!!
SimaGuang

Very playable. The game will resemble a French more than it will a Caro with 3. Bf5 (kinda), but it's a very good, solid opening. A lot of people prefer 3. c5 to 3. Bf5, some being very good players. Just make sure you know what you're doing with the pawn structure and you'll find success. 

 

A014682

Is it playable? It's a mainline!

ConfusedGhoul

you're having trouble playing against the Shirov and the Tal and you think that by changing variation you will be fine? There is still a gigantic amount of theory to know and there are dangerous lines where Black has to make very hard moves. All of the material on 3... c5 except the Chessable LTR I saw had some mistakes in the analysis so be sure to pick that one if you want to learn it

sndeww

Is it playable? Yes

Is it good? Yes

rychessmaster1
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rychessmaster1
Literally better than 3…Bf5 imo
Kowarenai

i play it all the time and its pretty solid but tricky at the same time

ConfusedGhoul

would you please give some arguments to your opinion rychessmaster1?

ricorat

I play it as black and I can say it's perfectly playable

Sred

Sound, fun to play and also at our level 4.c3 is the most common move. Black has already equalised.

Magnus3648

See this 

https://www.chess.com/analysis/library/pav1njKjC

Magnus3648

Also 4.Nc3 is a a good move

Magnus3648

 

rychessmaster1
ConfusedGhoul wrote:

would you please give some arguments to your opinion rychessmaster1?

ConfusedGhoul

the Modern scores better for Black than 1... e5 in the l*chess database, this doesn't mean c5 is better than 3... Bf5

alphaous

Oh no, not another database argument!

dpnorman

It’s definitely playable and I played it a lot in the past year chasing master.

I think it’s arguably a better practical option for non-GMs than 3…Bf5 because it is more forcing and it allows fewer dangerous sidelines. 

blank0923

I think the recommendation nowadays by everyone (even our silicon friends) is 3...c5. The 3...Bf5 lines can be quite difficult to understand (I personally cannot say I fully understand these lines), while 3...c5 makes its intention clear right off the bat to strike back in the center.

The downside? You do get the French bishop, although it is supposed to be okay. 

alphaous

I'm not comfortable with a French bishop, but if you are then c5 is 100% better. Whereas with Bf5 you have to be good at multiple types of games, c5 is mostly the same. However, I feel bf5 gives White more of a challenge. But c5 is definitely playable.