Is the Grob playable?

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ChessSakura

Each opening is ok, if you know how to play it correctly.

RivertonKnight

It has been played extensively in every world championship when the win is needed. (white or black) And the top 30,000 players (including engines) should be followed for the latest developments in the Grob for what they improved upon to keep the opening at the very top of their playlist...incredible stuff!!

RivertonKnight

It surpises me other openings even make it in print form....what about you?

RivertonKnight

To be honest I'm quite shocked that chess hasn't been declared solved for a win for White and Black due to the g-pawn .... amazing. Someone really needs to discuss the false narrative we have been digesting from FIDE don't you agree?

ponz111

Riverton  I hjve no idea what you are trying top say???You make a joke?

chamo2074

yes he's being sarcastic 

Wildekaart

I stopped reading when he said the Grob is played to win by both white and black.

PunchboxNET
najdorf96 wrote:

 

pfren wrote:

 

It does not matter if it loses by force or not, or even how much worse white is after "perfect" play from both sides.

Playing like that is a bad habbit, which won't help you improve at chess- quite the opposite.

 

indeed. I totally disagree with that premise, in fact, it's more of a bad "habbit" to routinely take "advice" (such as hiss) to heart. To have an open mind, to experiment especially as white and not conform soo readily expands one's knowledge, experience. Find out for yourself, do your own due diligence in openings. Confirm for yourself, genuinely wholeheartedly what is playable or not. When you finally do, that is what I call, a good habit. Not all of us are going to have a great chess career in our lifetime or aspire to (like phren implies his assumption that we all do) like those giving such advice; we just wanna play~and sometimes it's just cool to win with the grob vs unwary opponents! Not like we're gonna run up on Hikaru and beat him up in the future. No no no. Just play it if you want! Cuz playin's always the thing with me! ✌🏽

 

WHAT

(sorry all caps)

Garrileo

 

chamo2074

But the thing is all grob players play c4 at some point

Garrileo

 

llama47

Openings that are objectively bad have some point when the positions are difficult, but with the grob white is the one suffering, and it takes very little time for black to learn how to play the opening, so I don't understand why white would choose to play it.

I assume it's mostly chosen by beginners who can't tell the difference, and by good players who want to show disrespect.