The Vienna is an ok opening.
The Ruy Lopez is much better. It puts a lot more pressure on black.
Is the vienna/ vienna gambit good for begineers
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Vienna is good.
Ruy Lopez is also good as Samuel stated and scotch is also very powerful as ultimate trash talker said. Italian is also good and Four knights is fine
Ruy Lopez is the most beautiful and most effective.
It's also the most aggressive technically. Not aggressive in the same way as some Italian lines like the Evans Gambit. It has build up of tension on the kingside, and also it's more sound.
Whenever black slips up a little bit, white can strike. Also at lower levels, some people will play lesser variations instinctively, which are much easier to deal with. The Steinitz variation would be one example.
White just gets very nice positions here, breaking open the position and having a lead in space and development.
Youtuber LightSquares explains why the Ruy Lopez is a great opening for beginners.
It also has a lot of traps to fully exploit mistakes to devastating effect. Youtuber Eric Rosen explains.
He recommends this tricky sideline with 9. d4. This is not as good as it allows Bg4, but it's not so clear cut and white has a lot of tricks and traps.
I would recommend the main line with 9. h3.
This is the most ambitious and essentially the point of all of this strategy. This allows easentially 3 main branches with Na5 Chigorin, Nb8 Breyer and Bb7 Zaitsev.
Some people recommmend 6. d3, the Martinez variation, for beginners. This isn't quite as ambitious, but it's perfectly fine. White simplifies the game a lot by cutting back on a lot of these variations that black can play. This has also gained some popularity at top level.
It’s hard to say an opening is much better at 900 level, but Ruy Lopez is definitely one of the best openings for all levels
I like the vienna, but not as the vienna gambit form. I like the mieses variation of the vienna (1. E4 e5 2. Nc3 nf6 3. G3) i find that it can lead to some dynamic positions for white, and it scores well for white even at master levels. You can also play g3 against max lange (known as the paulsen variation)
The Vienna is excellent for learning. Definitely not the Vienna Gambit though, although you have to know how to transpose into advantageous forms of the V.G. The V.G. is not a great opening and you need positional skill for it.
Poweranony wrote:
I like the vienna, but not as the vienna gambit form. I like the mieses variation of the vienna (1. E4 e5 2. Nc3 nf6 3. G3) i find that it can lead to some dynamic positions for white, and it scores well for white even at master levels. You can also play g3 against max lange (known as the paulsen variation)
The Max Lange is an opening for white in the Italian after 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6. The Mieses variation is a way of playing a King's Indian Attack after 1. e4 e5. It's ok but probably too slow and definitely not good for a beginner, who should play the Vienna Game ... 1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Bc4, where black can play 3. ...Nxe4 and white has the choice between a very drawish variation with the queens off or the "Frankenstein-Dracula"!
I have been playing vienna mostly and getting good results. Is there a even better opening or should i stick with this?