If you dont want to play the c3, d4 variation of the Italian (it is objectively bad)
Top GMs are playing these variations to draw as white. I doubt a draw for white is what most people look for in their main repertoire.
This thread, and many like it, frequently loses sight of the forest for the trees. In the forums, when a low rated or sub-1000 elo player asks a question concerning an opening, sooner or later the answers deviate to discussions of specific lines and their evaluations from the point of view of 1900+ elo players, which is not what the OP was asking, but what a certain type of player insists on answering anyways.
But it is a great connecting link between low elo players and high elo players
I think our forum is going to end soon
Forum ended here :clap
Luckily enough, something I will never have to worry about. As Black, after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3, I avoid both of them and the Ruy Lopez with 2...Nf6!
White? 1.d4!
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We are talking about Italian and scotch games