Italian game vs scotch game

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We are talking about Italian and scotch games

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Mazetoskylo skrev:
MisterOakwood wrote:

If you dont want to play the c3, d4 variation of the Italian (it is objectively bad)

Top GMs are playing these variations to draw as white. I doubt a draw for white is what most people look for in their main repertoire.

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This thread, and many like it, frequently loses sight of the forest for the trees. In the forums, when a low rated or sub-1000 elo player asks a question concerning an opening, sooner or later the answers deviate to discussions of specific lines and their evaluations from the point of view of 1900+ elo players, which is not what the OP was asking, but what a certain type of player insists on answering anyways.

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But it is a great connecting link between low elo players and high elo players

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I think our forum is going to end soon

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Forum ended here :clap

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ThrillerFan wrote:

Luckily enough, something I will never have to worry about. As Black, after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3, I avoid both of them and the Ruy Lopez with 2...Nf6!

White? 1.d4!

ew

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I play the sicilian lol

and as white, I play the Vienna

or the Alapin

and if 1. d4

I play the Old Benoni, goated opening

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Is this old benoni opening, this one looks ew

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I think the best defense against d4 is King Indian defense. Queen's gambit declined is the worst one because bishop would get stuck by it own pawn

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Astrogash2009 wrote:

Is this old benoni opening, this one looks ew

no it's not, Qa5+ is a mistake.

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Italian does include the d4 move which is part of guicco piano theory which I will do in my head right now. E4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bc4 Bc5 c3 Nf6 d4 and there is more theory which I memorized(I know I shouldn’t memorize but I just know the whole thing without trying but atleast that is what I remember). There are traps like e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bc4 Bc5 c3 Nf6 d4 exd4 cxd4 Bb4+ Nf3 Nxe4
O-O Nxc3 bxc3 Bxc3 Ba3 Bxa1 Re1+ Ne7 Rxe7+ Kf7? Re8+ Kxe8 Qe2+ Qe7 Qxe7#. Ok that was hard
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Josh11live that's super hard to memorize

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I will try thank you

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AGC-Gambit_YT έγραψε:
Astrogash2009 wrote:

Is this old benoni opening, this one looks ew

no it's not, Qa5+ is a mistake.

2. dxc5 too.

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No True Scotsman...plays the Italian Game.

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Italian game and whisky

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IM pfren , thanks for the information. Is that benoni opening is good?

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Astrogash2009 έγραψε:

IM pfren , thanks for the information. Is that benoni opening is good?

Which Benoni? There are several kinds of it- Modern Benoni, Old Benoni, Czech Benoni, Schmidt Benoni, Delayed Benoni, Snake Benoni...