King's Gambit: What Is Wrong With 5...h5?
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Hadron
Aug 20, 2014
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Aug 20, 2014
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pfren wrote:
Hadron wrote:
You do know that repeat sh*t will not make it come up smelling of roses? 5...Qe7 is junk
You are completely wrong.
Completely?
Well I don't know about completely..
It does seem that the majority of opinion from those in the know ( GM J Gallagher, GM V Korchnoi & GM Bangiev) from their theoretical publication is 7...Qe7 favors White.
Piece development in the King's Gambit: Accepted is more important than wasteful pawn move, so 5...h5 is a poor choice, better is 5...Nf6!
I think a grandmaster knows more than non-master.
The long whip isn't considered playable:
Aug 20, 2014
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pfren wrote:
Hadron wrote:
Completely?
Well I don't know about completely..
It does seem that the majority of opinion from those in the know ( GM J Gallagher, GM V Korchnoi & GM Bangiev) from their theoretical publication is 7...Qe7 favors White.
Gallagher has analysed that ages ago, without engine aid, same goes for Korchnoi, and regarding Bangiev... white always has the advantage in the King's gambit, no matter what he plays. Factly, he does not even mention in his pseudo-analyses 9...Qe7, which is by far the main line (135 games played so far) but he voluntarily weakens e5 by ...d5, which surely isn't such a smart move.
The game is about equal after 9...Qe7, but Black is having whatever fun there is in the position.
All I can say is it must be so utterly awesome to be you that one can so blithely dismiss the opinion/analysis of a World renown Grandmaster and former world championship contender in his day simply because engines did not exist to validate his work. It may come as somewhat of a suprise but there existed a time where players actually had the ability and faith in that ability that everything mooted did not require constant checking with a computer. This however does NOT mean that Korchnoi's work on the subject 100% correct and beyond reproach, far from it. A good chess player should always question, question and question some more. You not asking questions. What you wrote, suggesting that Korchnoi's opinion on (and lets face it) an anti-positional move like 5...Qe7 should be dismissed on such a premise, is little more than selective myopia to justify a faulty premise. Pfren dogma at its finest.
Any further discuss on 5th move alternatives is really off topic.
Aug 21, 2014
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pfren wrote:
Hadron wrote:
All I can say is it must be so utterly awesome to be you that one can so blithely dismiss the opinion/analysis of a World renown Grandmaster and former world championship contender in his day simply because engines did not exist to validate his work. It may come as somewhat of a suprise but there existed a time where players actually had the ability and faith in that ability that everything mooted did not require constant checking with a computer. This however does NOT mean that Korchnoi's work on the subject 100% correct and beyond reproach, far from it. A good chess player should always question, question and question some more. You not asking questions. What you wrote, suggesting that Korchnoi's opinion on (and lets face it) an anti-positional move like 5...Qe7 should be dismissed on such a premise, is little more than selective myopia to justify a faulty premise. Pfren dogma at its finest.
Any further discuss on 5th move alternatives is really off topic.
Wow! Did you acquire the topic from the O.P.?
Guess how many games Viktor has played on the King's gambit (both colors invlolved)?
Just three, all with white- and he scored half a point.
Please continue your highly entertaining remarks.
With both colors? I found 7 on record.
Not with standing it makes you incorrect again, so what? How do you or anyone for that matter know how many games a certain player has played with a certain opening in his life time? You can't. Consulting a database and accepting it as gospel says way more about you than I ever can.
I am glad you find mirth in my posts. However what is really funny is listening to some obscure no name International master denigrate the credentials of a legendary GRANDMASTER like Victor Korchnoi ability to be able to comment on the King's Gambit simply to justify a point.
As I eluded to early, this is all off-topic and is probably boring people to tears.