The reason to play 4...d6 is that 4.e4 threatens an advance of the pawn against the knight.
If he plays 4.e3 he can't attack your knight so early, so I believe d6 will not be necessary.
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I play d6 so that I can play e5 later. But if I dont play d6 what would be my plan than? d5 seems like good move, but I never play similar positions so I would rader avoid that.
tonydal wrote:
I just play e5 and then with c6 you can threaten to drive a wedge with e4 followed by d5. Be careful about that though (sometimes your development is too slow for it to work).
That seems like good idea.
tonydal wrote:
makky wrote:
I play d6 so that I can play e5 later. But if I dont play d6 what would be my plan than? d5 seems like good move, but I never play similar positions so I would rader avoid that.
Yes. Most important is: don't play something you're uncomfortable with (just because you're "supposed to do it").
Ok. Thanks for advice.
In my view, this variation is like the King's Indian Attack with reversed colours. So, I think the Black should play d6 and e5, and when possible e4. (Just like in the KIA you would play e5 when possible.)
Thanks for your answers. I won the game, but he didn't play e3, he played Samisch variation.
chessgames.com opening explorer - c5 seems to be a very nice response:
| 4...d5 | 196 |
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| 4...c5 | 131 |
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| 4...O-O | 11 |
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| 4...d6 | 9 |
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This might sound like a stupid question but what's the advantage of using the KIA opening?
KIA is rather solid, versatile and easy to learn.
Dec 18, 2010
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blue150 wrote:
This might sound like a stupid question but what's the advantage of using the KIA opening?
One reason that people like it is that there's not a lot of theory, compared to some other openings.
Dec 18, 2010
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Fezzik wrote:
NickYoung5 wrote:
blue150 wrote:
This might sound like a stupid question but what's the advantage of using the KIA opening?
One reason that people like it is that there's not a lot of theory, compared to some other openings.
That's just about the only reason. There are a couple of lines where White can get his N to f4 and produce some interesting tactics, but overall, Black gets equal chances very quickly. I'm not saying it's busted, but the KIA gives black equality whereas White is still White in the mainline openings.
Yes, that was my experience. I read about it in one of Seirawan's books and started using it when I first started getting back into chess. I had some cheap wins against players who had never seen it before but as soon as I met someone who knew what they were doing I found myself in cramped positions with no winning chances. When I got around to finding an instructor we spent a lot of time on 1. d4 to get me off the KIA.
This is another question, as a beginner, should i learn kia?
Fezzik wrote:
Solid, Dragec?
I've heard it described many things, but solid?
Kasparov famously said that the King's Indian was more risky than the King's Gambit.
Solid?
In practical terms the KID might well be more risky than the KG, as everyone and their brother prepared something against it, but I feel that the position is so sound and dynamic fundamentally that it can often take me over their preparation.
Dec 18, 2010
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What Fezzik said. I'm not much above beginner and wasted a lot of time on the KIA. You've probably got a limited amount of time available to spend on openings, there are far more worthwhile recipients of this time.
Fezzik wrote:
Solid, Dragec?
I've heard it described many things, but solid?
Kasparov famously said that the King's Indian was more risky than the King's Gambit.
Solid?
Don't use the derogatory terms, yes, its a solid opening choice.
It may not be a Ruy Lopez or Nimzo Indian, but its a nice opening for a beginners to use. It was used by the most famous US chess player(no it was not Fezzik), so it can't be bad.
Easy to learn, and you can play it against wide range of opponents responses.
It wouldn't be so popular at club level if it didn't have some fire in it, one can try to use it and see if he likes it.
Are you talking about the King's Indian Attack or still the Defence?
II-Oliveira wrote:
Are you talking about the King's Indian Attack or still the Defence?
im a beginner and was looking for an opening. I think it was the attack but i dont know the difference. can you explain?
I love to play c5, as long as you play e6 and d5 beforehand (and Nf3 for move 1 ofc).
I'm playing one tournament and tomorow I play with black peaces. My opponent usually play 1.d4 and I will play 1...Nf6. In one game that he played before he continued 2.c4 g6 3. Nc3, Bg7 4.e3
I haven't prepare this variation. So my quastion is, should I continue with Kings indian defence 4...d6 . Is there any special plan when your opponent play e3 ?