7 ..... Nh6 seems the best to protect both f7 and g4, but ...for humans only, i guess
Little review of Salvio gambit
Viennese variation 6...Nc6 is the best chance to refute the Salvio gambit. We have only 1 game in the local database: Weiss-Lenner (1934, 1-0)
https://www.chess.com/games/view/25076
SF9+ suggests the following possibilities:
- 7. Nxf7 (ev=-1.2)
- 7. Bxf7+ (ev=-1.2)
- 7. d4 (ev=-1.5)
Let's choose 7. Bxf7+ as the most straightforward attack, it gives this variation
evaluated at about -1.6.
7 ..... Nh6 seems the best to protect both f7 and g4, but ...for humans only, i guess
U are right, my friend: Silberschmidt variation 7...Nh6 is the most popular and appears in almost all historical games.
ty i swear not to have used any help ! juste petites cellules grises !! the computers create some lines just close to Magnus approaches, and the vulgum pecus (me) is just like the kulak before the knout! ty
topic .... 8 ....d7 open line for the Bishop/ Nf6 protect and attack ! / Bishop b4 threat e1 // all candidates,
why not ...Nc6xNe5, double pawns, less pressure ???
The most popular Silberschmidt defense 6...Nh6 actually gives white good equalizing chances. They are represented by 7. d4 (ev=-0.2), traditionally followed by so-called Anderssen counterattack 7...d6 (ev=-0.3):
An other good option would be delayed Cochrane gambit 7...f3 (ev=-0.3).
The Salvio Gambit is interesting, but why should white choose such a risky line, when simply giving away the knight and pursuing development with 5.0-0 or d4 or Nc3 offers statistically better chances? I mean, isn't that the whole idea of the KG: to give away material in exchange for a better position with greater attacking potential? Check out the innocuous 5.Nc3:
Hahaha ... simply giving away the knight ... U are kidding, bro! Your McDonnell gambit 5. Nc3 is great too but as risky as Salvio imho. SF9+ evaluates it at about -1.1. Btw, in the McDonnell-d'Arblay game above, 6. Qxf3 (ev=-1.2) would be substantially better than that "unrisky" Muzio-like 6. O-O (ev=-2.2).
The Silberschmidt defense: Anderssen counterattack normally leads to the following position:
There are the following good options for white:
- 9. Nf4 (ev=+0.0, d=30)
- 9. Nc3 (ev=-0.1, d=30)
- 9. g3 (ev=-0.3, d=30)
In historical games white usually played 9. g3:
Benavides-Saduleto (1590) http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1251891
Greco-NN (1620) http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1272506
Roussereau-NN (1680) http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1336254
for Benavides and Roussereau, I don't see clearly why white win, it seems that black have some moves to use to make it longer than 21 moves, (but i 'm weak), ty
for Benavides and Roussereau, I don't see clearly why white win, it seems that black have some moves to use to make it longer than 21 moves, (but i 'm weak), ty
Hmm ... indeed, there is no white win in Benavides-Saduleto. On the contrary, the engine evaluation is something like -1. Maybe it was a time-out !?
A very interesting post. But can we have all info added on the first post and not lost in the discussion?
It's only a copy and paste!
All right, Skye. I'll add some info on Santa Maria and Cochrane variations and then put everything in the first post.
Greco had an interesting idea a little while ago (1620, ha). He skipped the queen check on h4 and defended right away with 5...Nh6:
Yes, there were several interesting historical games with 5...Nh6 (ev=+0.3, d=32). However, this move is a mistake since 5...Qh4+ is substantially better (ev=-1.6, d=32). So, I analyze only 5...Qh4+ in this thread.
Salvio (1570-1640) was a great chess player of his time:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessandro_Salvio
This is a link to one of earliest recorded games (Benavides-Saduleto, 1590) featuring Salvio gambit: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1251891
N.B. 5. Ne5 is already the Salvio gambit. However, 5...Qh4+ 6. Kf1 is the unique best continuation.
There are 4 main historical variations confirmed by engine evaluations.
It's possible also to play 6...Bg7 (no official name, ev=-0.5).
(to be continued, cf. posts #3, #7, #9)