Sicilian, English Attack and Yugoslav attack are very close to this. Main difference is Sicilian has c5 and d4 removed and the king's knight developed.
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You could get Nc3 Qd2 Be3 O-O-O configuration against the Leningrad or a Dutch set up in general as white. Presumeably against any Indian set up that does not attack the centre. Also against Hippo.
I can give you my standard official e4 aggressive repertoire if you want. All of this is completely sound, at worst I believe the Goring, Leonhardt, and the ICBM Breyer clock in between 0.00 and -0.3
e5: looking for Double Pawn Sac Goring Scotch.
c5: looking for Basman Palatnik Double Pawn Gambit Delayed Alapin.
e6: looking for Kunin Double Pawn Gambit Fingerslip Winawer.
c6: unfortunately the Caro doesn’t have really any completely sound double pawn gambits, so just go Fantasy variation or the 3. Nf3 Breyer with the ICBM idea.
d5: Leonhardt Mieses Kotrc Gambit.
d6/g6: 3. f3 and play a Saemisch KID.
Jobava London is a little risky for that set up. Or at least the knight and bishop are vulberable before completion of set up. Also quick queen side attack can disrupt o-o-o it is not a natural fit. Feels weird.
Oct 10, 2023
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Maybe basic london system? It has a built-in greek gift and you can decide which way to castle(which means you can castle on the opposite side every game)
@MasterMagnus75. Sorry the 150 attack involves white having a queenside castle with a queen one square above the castled rook, there is a knight to the left one square up and a dark square bishop one square up to the right of the queen forming a battery aimed along c1-h6 diagonal. It is a pattern that is replicable in different openings, some easier than others.
Oct 10, 2023
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Ok, I think I would go with the london system for white and black with this setup
against KID and modern
Now the new question is what to play against e4 and c4 as black? I thought Qd6 scandi, but the two critical playstyles from white - attacking the queen/ playing d5 look pretty unsettling. Does Qa5 scandi allow attacking playstyle, or does it force you into positional play. Is the 2. Nf6 scandi possibly better?
If white plays d5 and c5 you will need to give up on the configuration and try this line. 1. d4 d5 2. Bf4 c5 3. Nf3 cxd4 4. c3 dxc3 5. Nxc3 e6 6. e4 dxe4 7. Qxd8+ Kxd8 8. O-O-O+ Ke8 9. Ne5
Oct 11, 2023
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Hi!
I would suggest a classical repertoire for beginners, check out my post:
https://www.chess.com/blog/maafernan/openings-for-beginners
Good luck!
oooh I luvs me the hartlaub charlick!
if he likes to play aggressive, why not just learn the stonewall formation? you can play it on either side of the board except against 1.e4 or 1.g4, really, and it's about as anti-tactical as it can get. that's why I hate playing it myself now that I've found my tactical center. it drives me nuts having my own pawns get in the way of attacks. i like open games. that's why i love the hartlaub charlick.
if he plays carokann, mieses is a really cool way to teach caros about f7 attacks before he can castle. I never studied it even. i just mistook it for the alapin diemer french when similar 4.f4 maroczy fantasy wasn't working and punish soooo many pawn pushers with it using BASIC Nf3/Bc4/Bxf4+ tactics and kings gambit style semi-open f files.
stonewalling your dad might just drive him NUTS
when you know the basics, it has a few cool tactics like pawn forking your opponents knight and bishop, and if he 0-0-0s... just pawn storm the crap out of him
the nice thing about it, is that you play mostly the same moves every game. the bad thing is they're mostly pawn moves as black
Oct 11, 2023
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oooh I luvs me the hartlaub charlick!
if he likes to play aggressive, why not just learn the stonewall formation? you can play it on either side of the board except against 1.e4 or 1.g4, really, and it's about as anti-tactical as it can get. that's why I hate playing it myself now that I've found my tactical center. it drives me nuts having my own pawns get in the way of attacks. i like open games. that's why i love the hartlaub charlick.
if he plays carokann, mieses is a really cool way to teach caros about f7 attacks before he can castle. I never studied it even. i just mistook it for the alapin diemer french when similar 4.f4 maroczy fantasy wasn't working and punish soooo many pawn pushers with it using BASIC Nf3/Bc4/Bxf4+ tactics and kings gambit style semi-open f files.
stonewalling your dad might just drive him NUTS
when you know the basics, it has a few cool tactics like pawn forking your opponents knight and bishop, and if he 0-0-0s... just pawn storm the crap out of him
the nice thing about it, is that you play mostly the same moves every game. the bad thing is they're mostly pawn moves as black
So if you are a stonewall expert, where can one learn that? All i seen is the gothamchess video which is not enough. What middlegame plans does this system have if, for example, the opponent blockades the center with their d6/d3 pawn like in the king's indian? I think knowing this is essential before teaching this system to anyone
I wouldn't call myself an EXPERT. I haven't figured out lines against the NEW Nd2/Nd7 lines. It's just easy to play, even at the amateur level. I just learned a few basic opening rules from a 2200 who talked me into it when I was already playing "the colle pyramid". It's an opening that even chess engines aren't likely to mate you in under 30 moves with.
I'll share what I know with you in a bit, but right now, I'm here to share the rousseau gambit main line theory I've finally completed.
Daddy_Chillimao wrote:
@lassus_dinnao
That's all from yt. Stop using yt for chess sources.
and stop destroying opponents 2:1? WHY would I want to break what's FIXED? HEY! If youtube channel players suck soooo bad, why don't you go teach Levy or Igor a lesson?! I'd pay to watch THAT! I bet you could teach those stupid 2400 plusses a lesson and then some!
OK... here's the BASIC stonewall attack formation (it has good stats I see)
here's an "ideal opening" where you can get that fork done. you could also play c3 to block the QN, but just be wary of playing Nbd2 like you want, because it turns your e3 pawn into a target after ...Ng4. getting that outpost square not only has winning the exchange potential, it opens the diagonal up for your bishop to take on g4 and then follow with your queen.
you MIGHT want to push h3 in this position to stop Ng4 attacking your UNDEFENDED e3 pawn, but that further weakens your castle. this is why I get frustrated by the stonewall. I want my pieces on the other side of the board already instead of navigating such closed quarters where developing can actually cause problems instead of solving them.
as white, after you get the 1st 3 pawns out, you want to develop your knight. your f file is open and if your opponent gets his knight on e4 or g4, you can get in trouble after ...Qh4+. you always want to keep that threat in mind. it's REALLY bad if someone plays e5 as white against a black stonewall as they're ruining your development and possibly pulling a QN combo. it's rare though.
I see players playing Bd3 and doing better with it, but I was taught you absolutely DON'T want to trade your king's bishop off as it can get through your pawn chain. if you can, Bd3 (or Bd6 as black) is better. if you can get rid of your opponent's dark square bishop with a knight trade, that's always a bonus because his other one will be locked out of your pawn chain.
be careful of trades on the e5 outpost because if a pawn takes, it can advance to fork your f3 knight and bishop on d3. you want to look for opportunities to do the same to your opponent though.
if your d pawn is attacked, defend with your c pawn so it can capture back and keep your wall intact.
as black, I prefer pushing f5 first against anything that isn't 1.d4 so I can get my knight out asap, and against 1.d4 2.d5 play 2...c6 "slav walling" as I call it, to secure the defense before developing, often leading to 4 time wasting pawn moves before I even START developing, but that's why you stonewall... to create an annoying pawn front that's hard for your opponents to get through. once you learn a few trouble spots and how to keep an eye out for them, it's generally a no brainer to get your basic development done and then try to figure out just how to get an attack started.
ideally, you want to get your knight on e5 as an outpost square, and use your QN to d2 to trade off an opponent's outpost knight. otherwise, you follow your KN to f3 when it advances
you want to castle fast too to get off that open diagonal.
when opponents attack on your QS, just play c3 and keep pushing pawns at whatever to claim space.
the plan I was taught but rarely achieved is lifting your rook to f3 to get the other one behind it and even use your KS pawns to pawnstorm an 0-0. it's REALLY effective pawn storming 0-0-0s.
if you can, wiggle your QB to d2 (just reverse these plans as black) then back to e1 where it has dark square control.
PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR E3 PAWN! it's a juicy target and opponents will take it if you block your QB's defense or don't have a queen on e2. it's a bit of a juggling act as you have to maneuver in tight quarters, and it's unbearable for me because I like my pieces out in the open and hate 60 move games.
unless your opponent 0-0-0s, you just want to keep your QS closed and stop your opponents with pawns
because the center is closed, you attack on the flanks. that's why the staunton is so annoying. it rips the center open and makes you defend before you're ready. i never studied how to deal with it, but it's a bit rare.
here's an example of a really cool trap I came up with to counter the Q+N bum rush in a game
that's pretty much everything I remember. opponents have gotten better at attacking the stonewall these days. I used to beat a fair amount of higher rated players with it just following the same basic plan most games. like the 2200 told me, you pretty much play the same moves every game and it's hard for your opponent to stop you. play bishop to d3 if you can and e2 if you gotta.
just remember, you're going to need patience to play it. you aren't going to have many fast swashbuckling romantic games with it, but neither will your opponents. that's the point... it's more defensive than offensive. that, and you're going to be on familiar ground more often than not vs random jumbles you gotta try and make sense out of. if you have a decent positional sense, you might just find a life partner. me? i gotta have tactics. that's why I love hartlaub charlick. it's as opposite of this as you can get.
you could even play the "sorry charlie" against 1.d4 if you like THAT, and then stonewall everything else but 1.e4 and the grob.
hope that helps. if you try it and like it, let me know.
c6: unfortunately the Caro doesn’t have really any completely sound double pawn gambits, so just go Fantasy variation or the 3. Nf3 Breyer with the ICBM idea.
It depends on your style really. For me, e4 openings that has the same basic ideas (Vienna, Italian, Evans Gambit, King's gambit, Ruy Lopez) fits, while for black I prefer caro kann for e4 and KID for d4
I had TERRIBLE results with maroczy fantasy, but when i confused it with the 3.Be3 alapin diemer french, well, let's just say I quit living in a fantasy world and give caros nightmares just doing what comes natural to a king's and blackmar diemer gambiteer.
I've played this EXACT mate 3 times already (...Nf6 & ...Bg4 transpose)
My father is a very aggressive player. During the game he often takes one of my pawns with a piece or just gives it away for no reason which 30% of time turns out to be a brilliant plan(other 70% it doesn't work). After I played the 150 attack against him he immediately asked me to teach him that. Which openings for white and black may allow this kind of play? He also is pretty bad at memorising theory. At best, the opening should be easy-to-understand. Right now I can think of only the paulsen attack center game, bronstein scandi and hartlaub-charlick englund gambit.