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Mieses-Kotrc Variation - what to do now?

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JinRaijin

 

Hi all - this is my first post on the forums any only just recently joined Chess.com. It seems I like the game much more now that I'm older, and I find that I'm a much better player (and more studious about examining openings).

That said, I have an interesting question about what I believe is just after the "Mieses-Kotrc Variation";
1. e4 d5
2. exd5 Qxd5
3. Nc3 Qe6+
4. Be2 Qg6
5. Nf3 Qxg2

Playing white, I picked 5. Nf3 because I believed it to set up a gambit for the g-pawn, and forces black to develop almost nothing - but I'm at a loss what to do after Qxg2. I read elsewhere that you might be able to develop the kingside bishop, but to me it looks like you lose a pawn for nothing. What would you do at 5. and 6. playing white?
EDIT: 6. Rg1 looks pretty solid, but then what would you predict is black's move, and what should 7. be for white?

Shiraaaaazi

That is definitely a poison pawn in the Scandiavian. Those lines can get very complex. Here is a trap in the scandinavian.

rrrttt

dont play Nd4. Play Bb5+

rrrttt
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Shiraaaaazi
rrrttt wrote:

dont play Nd4. Play Bb5+


 nd4 wins the queen... unless bb5+ leads to mate i dont see why i play that

awesmond

try setting up your knights to attack c7 and f7. after Rg1 of course. blacks only move after that is Qh3. but seriously, how could you say there is no compensation?!

ARandomPerson

Rg1 Qh3

d5 Nh6?!

FalafelDynamite
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aaronprince

In response to 3....Qe6, I like 4.Qe2.  4.Be2 creates that poison pawn, so whenever I face this, I offer the queen exchange. Either they exchange queens and you have two minor pieces developed and they have nothing or you've got a knight and queen developed and they've only got a vulnerable queen.

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov

The big mistake is not Qe6, but Qg6 and then taking the pawn on g2.

This simply loses.

Instead, black can still try to hold on after g6, Bg7 and 0-0.

If course, white is much better here too, but black might attempt to hold.

Robhad