Most versatile/lazy openings for black
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To be honest, I think that simultaneously the most lazy and versatile opening black can play is to just go for a Hippopotamus setup. Can be used against practically any opening from white
not necessarily. the Caro Kann is played at high levels because the complexity of rook endgames gives black chances to win instead of the
theoretically forced draws of say the Berlin defense.
Jul 9, 2023
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#24
I have your same problem/need. I play the London with white and decided to start playing 1...b6 and 2... Bb7 against everything. There are 2 / 3 books that teach how to play 1...b6 against everything.
Jul 10, 2023
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#25
Hi! Since you play the London System as White, I would suggest you play the Chebanenko Slav as Black against 1.d4, and the Caro Kann against 1.e4. The three openings share similar strategic themes. I adopted quite recently an alternative repertoire based on them and I'´m quite happy with the results.
Your question inspired me to write so I just posted on my blog about my experience with this repertoire. If you are interested, follow the link: https://www.chess.com/blog/maafernan/a-solid-opening-repertoire-for-speed-chess
Good luck!
Is the answer not obvious? Intuition
TheSampson wrote:
Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:
Those who call caro kann boring, go watch vishy Anand who is currently competing against the top players of the world using it
bro super grandmasters play the entire game off of theory and enter a forced draw
Probably the only correct statement I’ve seen from you throughout these threads
Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:
That's not the point. The point is if Anand can use it at the top level, we patzers can use it to win as well! The advance is the only line that needs a solution
Well, the Advance and the Two Knights and the Breyer and the Fantasy and the Panov’s a bit annoying and the old Mainline is still really good.
Jul 10, 2023
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#29
Ethan_Brollier написал:
Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:
That's not the point. The point is if Anand can use it at the top level, we patzers can use it to win as well! The advance is the only line that needs a solution
Well, the Advance and the Two Knights and the Breyer and the Fantasy and the Panov’s a bit annoying and the old Mainline is still really good.
You know I literally never faced the panov in my life. I played like 400 games in the caro kann
London with 1.d42.Bf4 as white is good but stop there. There are soon zillions of different combinations after that. Play through lots of games with this two starting moves and get a feeling for what to do. Learning lines at your rating is useless and a waste of time.
The same for black: answer 1,e4 with 1e62d5, answer 1.d4 with 1.d52.e6 and all other openings with 1.Nf62.e6 and play through a lot of games with these starting moves too.
Study chess strategy in a beginners book and find out how to think in chess positions.
Do not waste your time on blitz; it is sloppy and full of mistakes. Chose 15 min+10 so you can think what and why. Increase from there.
Jul 11, 2023
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#31
I think I need to know just how lazy the OP is. If he is super lazy, you can play the Hippo as black or white, and basically against everything. That way you are only learning 1 opening, but you have to learn it really well. This idea kind of falls into the old Soviet school, where the focus was to first learn opening fundamentals but not necessarily any opening lines, then learn tactics, learn middlegames, endgames, mating patterns, then get into more opening theory and learning specific lines. Not that the Hippo is a great opening, but at 1100 it can serve you for a while as you work on the other areas of the game. Just food for thought.
Jul 12, 2023
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#32
PDX_Axe wrote:
I think I need to know just how lazy the OP is. If he is super lazy, you can play the Hippo as black or white, and basically against everything. That way you are only learning 1 opening, but you have to learn it really well. This idea kind of falls into the old Soviet school, where the focus was to first learn opening fundamentals but not necessarily any opening lines, then learn tactics, learn middlegames, endgames, mating patterns, then get into more opening theory and learning specific lines. Not that the Hippo is a great opening, but at 1100 it can serve you for a while as you work on the other areas of the game. Just food for thought.
Happy to learn ~3 openings for black. Sticking with the London for now as white, but may branch out later.
The last few days I've been learning about the French and the Caro Kann, and I'm enjoying the Caro Kann more, so that will be my response to E4.
I say the pric
Can some try teaching me anew openning
Jul 12, 2023
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#35
i for one never said the caro must be boring
i said it can be boring coz thats what op wants
StevenKong12 wrote:
I say the pric
Too many lines to learn
I think OP has already decided to go with Caro-Kann and Slav, which are probably perfect for him since he play the London.
Well, I’d recommend just playing off of principles. No memorization needed + improves your skills
