New Super Powerful Gambit

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BlackLawliet
Yigor wrote:
pfren wrote:

The whole line does not look terribly good, and anyway this is of no great significance: 4.d4 Bxd4! is a more principled reply.

 

Yes, but it could be played with different move orders, e.g., Scotch --> Haxo --> b4 --> c3 :

 

 

That is an interesting idea

Ilampozhil25
BlackLawliet wrote:

Here's a "trap" that one of my opponents just fell into. While the material is technically even, I have a massive lead in development. Here it is:

 

you did the same thing in the flint lock gambit

threatening mate

Ilampozhil25
Yigor wrote:
pfren wrote:

The whole line does not look terribly good, and anyway this is of no great significance: 4.d4 Bxd4! is a more principled reply.

 

Yes, but it could be played with different move orders, e.g., Scotch --> Haxo --> b4 --> c3 :

 

 

also the nakhmanson

if nf6

pfren
BlackLawliet έγραψε:

Here's a "trap" that one of my opponents just fell into. While the material is technically even, I have a massive lead in development. Here it is:

 

 

I see.

So, you would not play (4...Nxd4?) 5.Nxe5 when Black is in deep trouble already, but rather an inferior move (5.b4?! Bb6) .

Oh well, it's your game after all...

pfren
Yigor έγραψε:
pfren wrote:

The whole line does not look terribly good, and anyway this is of no great significance: 4.d4 Bxd4! is a more principled reply.

 

Yes, but it could be played with different move orders, e.g., Scotch --> Haxo --> b4 --> c3 :

 

 

 

Certainly this is a more accurate move order, but now Black may also play 4...Nf6 instead of 4...Bc5.

Actually I prefer 4...Bc5, as the mainline after 4...Nf6 5.0-0 Nxe4 6.Re1 d5 7.Bxd5 Qxd5 8.Nc3 etc etc etc is very drawish.

theCodeNick
BlackLawliet wrote: I looked into this, and what you said is incorrect. In the haxo gambit or rosentreter gambit, you only gambit 1 pawn, but in this, you gambit 3.

Ah I see now. Sorry for the confusion. I think it's interesting, but I will stick to my mainline center attack against the GP.

BlackLawliet
pfren wrote:
BlackLawliet έγραψε:

Here's a "trap" that one of my opponents just fell into. While the material is technically even, I have a massive lead in development. Here it is:

 

 

I see.

So, you would not play (4...Nxd4?) 5.Nxe5 when Black is in deep trouble already, but rather an inferior move (5.b4?! Bb6) .

Oh well, it's your game after all...

I thought you were referring to a different line

Batman2508

Interesting...

I might try it in blitz

Nice gambit you've come up with!

BlackLawliet
Batman2508 wrote:

Interesting...

I might try it in blitz

Nice gambit you've come up with!

Thank you! If you use it in a game, could you may share how the game went?

Batman2508
BlackLawliet wrote:
Batman2508 wrote:

Interesting...

I might try it in blitz

Nice gambit you've come up with!

Thank you! If you use it in a game, could you may share how the game went?

sure!

BlackLawliet
gotdasauce wrote:

Man for online blitz its perfect. For OTB i don't know no experience there.

yah, not the best otb gambit

TemporaryVein

Deferred Evans would be an accurate name. I think it can be played OTB since Black has already played 4...exd4 and might go on with other sub-optimal moves.

BlackLawliet
melvinbluestone wrote:
Yigor wrote:

It's a mixture of the following gambits: Evans, Göring, Haxo, Rosentretter and Scotch, so giving SHREG Gambit.

   Well, if anything, it's an interesting acronym. Maybe somebody could take out the Evan's and throw in the Ulvestad, so we'd have the SHRUG Gambit.

yah lol

KnockKnockItstheFBI
melvinbluestone wrote:
Yigor wrote:

It's a mixture of the following gambits: Evans, Göring, Haxo, Rosentretter and Scotch, so giving SHREG Gambit.

   Well, if anything, it's an interesting acronym. Maybe somebody could take out the Evan's and throw in the Ulvestad, so we'd have the SHRUG Gambit.

Ha ha fu nn y

Yigor
melvinbluestone wrote:
Yigor wrote:

It's a mixture of the following gambits: Evans, Göring, Haxo, Rosentretter and Scotch, so giving SHREG Gambit.

   Well, if anything, it's an interesting acronym. Maybe somebody could take out the Evan's and throw in the Ulvestad, so we'd have the SHRUG Gambit.

 

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Gullgirly
BlackLawliet wrote:

Here's a "trap" that one of my opponents just fell into. While the material is technically even, I have a massive lead in development. Here it is:

 

That wasn't me was it ?

I thought I did ok as you know all the theory and I knew none at all.

Gullgirly

Its interesting, if you know the absolutely best line for black, maybe not so dangerous, but that applies to every opening doesn't it ?

tlay80

At the very worst, Black can just play.  6 . . . Ba5, and they've transposed to the main line of the Evans.  Except you're playing it in a move order that gives Black several opportunities to improve (4 . . . Bxd4, 6 . . . dxc3).  Why not just play the Evans and not give them the extra opportunities?

Seems like a cheap trap to me.

BlackLawliet
Gullgirly wrote:
BlackLawliet wrote:

Here's a "trap" that one of my opponents just fell into. While the material is technically even, I have a massive lead in development. Here it is:

 

That wasn't me was it ?

I thought I did ok as you know all the theory and I knew none at all.

No that wasn't you, that was just in a random online game

Gullgirly

Wow, why are a lot of people so hostile to you about this ??

There is no need........ its a good idea, maybe they are jealous because they never thought of anything original ??