opening repertoire for a 1000-rated player

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HI chess community

So I recently picked up chess and am just beginning to learn about openings in general, the issue however is that i have know idea what repertoire i should pick, since i assume i should try to narrow it down to a few openings per for each color. Im very bad at the mid-game and tactical chess so i would really like to learn and play openings that lead to those sort of tactical and sharp positions so that i can improve this weakness of mine. As of now i have mostly played guccio piano and fried liver and urusov gambit as white, and french and kart-cann and kings indian defence as black

thanks in advance guys!

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Mitheraso a écrit :

If you are starting I think those are very good choices. play e4 everytime as white. the giocco piano is a bit passive for my taste but a very good opening with easy ideas and schemes. At your level I think it is best for you to play solid openings learning to spot mistakes and "learning the ropes" before studying other openings.

 

I think you should just focus on the french defence, I believe it offers superior counterplay compared to the caro-Kann and is just as solid, study it profoundly, choose a line against Nc3, Nd2, e5, exd5 & Bd3 and don't bother with other options until you dominate them. When playing against d4 you could learn the nimzo-indian but start with "e6" offering white to transpose into the french defence. The french defence is a very prestigious defence beloved at all level's that can lead to both sharp and quiet games, plus black is usually the one who chooses the nature of the game.

 

If you really want to play sharp openings you could learn the king's gambit, the modern sicilian and the benoni but these are very complicated openings.

Giuoco Piano a bit passive??

When learning, a good way is to begin like our "predecessors", with active Bc4, and trying to push d4 with c3.

So Giuoco piano is the way, or even the Evans gambit which aims to improve on it with a tempo up (but pawn down but is it so important?).

Just play "simple" concepts : develop quickly, try to get centre with your pawns.

Deirdre is right, 1.e4 e5 and 1.d4 d5 are the best schools and u know what, they are the world champions openings!

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You dont follow Opening Principles.

Youre hanging pieces.

Youre missing simple tactics.

All you need right now is to follow opening principles:

Control the center.

Develop towards the center.

Castle.

Connect your rooks.

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My uncle feldegast played as white 1 f4 e6 2 g4 for his entire chess life but somehow his rating never improved.
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I'd say just focus on your tactical ability and general knowledge of chess first,remembering and opening but not knowing how to conduct your play in the middle game and/or endgame is pointless,no-one around 1000 Elo would have much opening knowledge anyway,most of the games are won by the other one making a big blunder/mistake which leads to a capture of a queen or checkmate.

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For someone seeking help with choosing openings, I usually bring up Openings for Amateurs by Pete Tamburro (2014).
http://kenilworthian.blogspot.com/2014/05/review-of-pete-tamburros-openings-for.html
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/openings-for-amateurs/
I believe that it is possible to see a fair portion of the beginning of Tamburro's book by going to the Mongoose Press site.
https://www.mongoosepress.com/catalog/excerpts/openings_amateurs.pdf
Perhaps mangsterinoo would also want to look at Discovering Chess Openings by GM John Emms (2006).
"... For beginning players, [Discovering Chess Openings] will offer an opportunity to start out on the right foot and really get a feel for what is happening on the board. ..." - FM Carsten Hansen (2006)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627114655/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen91.pdf
"There is no such thing as a 'best opening.' Each player should choose an opening that attracts him. Some players are looking for a gambit as White, others for Black gambits. Many players that are starting out (or have bad memories) want to avoid mainstream systems, others want dynamic openings, and others want calm positional pathways. It’s all about personal taste and personal need.
For example, if you feel you’re poor at tactics you can choose a quiet positional opening (trying to hide from your weakness and just play chess), or seek more dynamic openings that engender lots of tactics and sacrifices (this might lead to more losses but, over time, will improve your tactical skills and make you stronger)." - IM Jeremy Silman (January 28, 2016)
https://www.chess.com/article/view/opening-questions-and-a-dream-mate
https://www.chess.com/article/view/picking-the-correct-opening-repertoire
http://chess-teacher.com/best-chess-openings/
https://www.chess.com/blog/TigerLilov/build-your-opening-repertoire
https://www.chess.com/blog/CraiggoryC/how-to-build-an-opening-repertoire
https://www.chess.com/article/view/learning-an-opening-to-memorize-or-understand
https://www.chess.com/article/view/the-perfect-opening-for-the-lazy-student
https://www.chess.com/article/view/3-ways-to-learn-new-openings
https://www.chess.com/article/view/how-to-understand-openings
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9035.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627110453/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen169.pdf
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9029.pdf
https://www.chess.com/article/view/has-the-king-s-indian-attack-been-forgotten
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7277.pdf
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9033.pdf
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9050.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627104938/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen159.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627022042/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen153.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627132508/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen173.pdf
"... Overall, I would advise most players to stick to a fairly limited range of openings, and not to worry about learning too much by heart. ..." - FM Steve Giddins (2008)
"... Once you identify an opening you really like and wish to learn in more depth, then should you pick up a book on a particular opening or variation. Start with ones that explain the opening variations and are not just meant for advanced players. ..." - Dan Heisman (2001)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140626180930/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman06.pdf
"... To begin with, only study the main lines ... you can easily fill in the unusual lines later. ..." - GM John Nunn (2006)
"... I feel that the main reasons to buy an opening book are to give a good overview of the opening, and to explain general plans and ideas. ..." - GM John Nunn (2006)
"... If the book contains illustrative games, it is worth playing these over first ..." - GM John Nunn (2006)
"... the average player only needs to know a limited amount about the openings he plays. Providing he understands the main aims of the opening, a few typical plans and a handful of basic variations, that is enough. ..." - FM Steve Giddins (2008)
"... For inexperienced players, I think the model that bases opening discussions on more or less complete games that are fully annotated, though with a main focus on the opening and early middlegame, is the ideal. ..." - FM Carsten Hansen (2010)
"... Everyman Chess has started a new series aimed at those who want to understand the basics of an opening, i.e., the not-yet-so-strong players. ... I imagine [there] will be a long series based on the premise of bringing the basic ideas of an opening to the reader through plenty of introductory text, game annotations, hints, plans and much more. ..." - FM Carsten Hansen (2002)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627055734/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen38.pdf
"The way I suggest you study this book is to play through the main games once, relatively quickly, and then start playing the variation in actual games. Playing an opening in real games is of vital importance - without this kind of live practice it is impossible to get a 'feel' for the kind of game it leads to. There is time enough later for involvement with the details, after playing your games it is good to look up the line." - GM Nigel Davies (2005)

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@kindaspongey Thank you! That list you put together is a heck of a service to the community.  

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Don't spend much time on openings. It's a waste of time until 1500-1800 at least, probably beyond that. Just follow the three basic principles: 1. Develop your pieces to good squares, 2. Fight for control of the center, and 3. Get your king to a safe place (usually by castling). Theoretical knowledge won't decide anything until your tactical and positional skills start to become relevant enough to convert smaller advantages, so focus on improving those skills instead. If you do want to learn a few lines, pick ones that won't get you bogged down in theory, and focus more on understanding the types of positions that commonly result.

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"... In the middlegame and especially the endgame you can get a long way through relying on general principles and the calculation of variations; in the opening you can go very wrong very quickly if you don't know what ideas have worked and what haven't in the past. It has taken hundreds of years of trial and error by great minds like Alekhine and, in our day, Kasparov to reach our current knowledge of the openings. ..." - GM Neil McDonald (2001)

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Perhaps you know of some titled players who denounce what GM McDonald wrote.

"... In games between novice chess players, color is not the most important factor, but acquired knowledge is crucial. Without the basics of opening play it is easy to fail, and that's why openings must be learned. ..." - Journey to the Chess Kingdom by Yuri Averbakh and Mikhail Beilin

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"... 'Chess Fundamentals' ... does not deal so minutely as this book will with the things that beginners need to know. ..." - from Capablanca's Primer of Chess

"... The whole structure of the game may be the result of the first few moves. For the sake of experience and practice it may be well to vary the openings, but for the sake of efficiency it might be better to stick to one single opening for the attack, and one single opening or method of development for the defence. This system may be followed until the one opening in question has been mastered. Then the player may take up a new opening, and thus gradually reach the point where he feels familiar with half a dozen different openings. Half a dozen different openings, well learned, are about all the average player needs to obtain good results. ..." - from Capablanca's Primer of Chess

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The forums have been reduced to the media.  No independent thought, no critical thinking.  Just copy and paste.

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BobbyTalparov wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:

... "... In games between novice chess players, color is not the most important factor, but acquired knowledge is crucial. Without the basics of opening play it is easy to fail, and that's why openings must be learned. ..." - Journey to the Chess Kingdom by Yuri Averbakh and Mikhail Beilin

... Note that Averbakh was referring to opening principles, ...

How do you get that? I do not see the word, "principles" in that last sentences. I see "openings".

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BobbyTalparov wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:

XXXX

"... 'Chess Fundamentals' ... does not deal so minutely as this book will with the things that beginners need to know. ..." - from Capablanca's Primer of Chess

"... The whole structure of the game may be the result of the first few moves. For the sake of experience and practice it may be well to vary the openings, but for the sake of efficiency it might be better to stick to one single opening for the attack, and one single opening or method of development for the defence. This system may be followed until the one opening in question has been mastered. Then the player may take up a new opening, and thus gradually reach the point where he feels familiar with half a dozen different openings. Half a dozen different openings, well learned, are about all the average player needs to obtain good results. ..." - from Capablanca's Primer of Chess

... What he is saying in the first quote is that "Chess Fundamentals" was not meant to be complete - but was meant as the first part of a 3-part series (with "A Primer of Chess" as the second part - ...

Primer of Chess explains how the rook moves. Does that sound to you like a topic for someone who has already worked through Chess Fundamentals?

"... 'Chess Fundamentals' ... does not deal so minutely as this book will with the things that beginners need to know. ..." - from Capablanca's Primer of Chess

"... This constitutes the Ruy Lopez ...

... We have now gone over one of the main variations of this most important opening. Because of its importance we are giving below some of the main variations used by the experts, with very light comments of a general nature. ..." - J. R. Capablanca's Primer of Chess

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kindaspongey wrote:
BobbyTalparov wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:

... "... In games between novice chess players, color is not the most important factor, but acquired knowledge is crucial. Without the basics of opening play it is easy to fail, and that's why openings must be learned. ..." - Journey to the Chess Kingdom by Yuri Averbakh and Mikhail Beilin

... Note that Averbakh was referring to opening principles, ...

How do you get that? I do not see the word, "principles" in that last sentences. I see "openings".

"Without the basics of opening play..."

Opening Principles.

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FishEyedFools wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:
BobbyTalparov wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:

... "... In games between novice chess players, color is not the most important factor, but acquired knowledge is crucial. Without the basics of opening play it is easy to fail, and that's why openings must be learned. ..." - Journey to the Chess Kingdom by Yuri Averbakh and Mikhail Beilin

... Note that Averbakh was referring to opening principles, ...

How do you get that? I do not see the word, "principles" in that last sentences. I see "openings".

"Without the basics of opening play..."

Opening Principles.

Was it Yuri Averbakh and Mikhail Beilin who wrote "Opening Principles" above, or was it FishEyedFools?

"... and that's why openings must be learned. ..." - Journey to the Chess Kingdom by Yuri Averbakh and Mikhail Beilin

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kindaspongey wrote:
FishEyedFools wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:
BobbyTalparov wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:

... "... In games between novice chess players, color is not the most important factor, but acquired knowledge is crucial. Without the basics of opening play it is easy to fail, and that's why openings must be learned. ..." - Journey to the Chess Kingdom by Yuri Averbakh and Mikhail Beilin

... Note that Averbakh was referring to opening principles, ...

How do you get that? I do not see the word, "principles" in that last sentences. I see "openings".

"Without the basics of opening play..."

Opening Principles.

Was it Yuri Averbakh and Mikhail Beilin who wrote "Opening Principles" above, or was it FishEyedFools?

"... and that's why openings must be learned. ..." - Journey to the Chess Kingdom by Yuri Averbakh and Mikhail Beilin

What do you think the "basics of opening play" is?

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FishEyedFools wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:
FishEyedFools wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:
BobbyTalparov wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:

... "... In games between novice chess players, color is not the most important factor, but acquired knowledge is crucial. Without the basics of opening play it is easy to fail, and that's why openings must be learned. ..." - Journey to the Chess Kingdom by Yuri Averbakh and Mikhail Beilin

... Note that Averbakh was referring to opening principles, ...

How do you get that? I do not see the word, "principles" in that last sentences. I see "openings".

"Without the basics of opening play..."

Opening Principles.

Was it Yuri Averbakh and Mikhail Beilin who wrote "Opening Principles" above, or was it FishEyedFools?

"... and that's why openings must be learned. ..." - Journey to the Chess Kingdom by Yuri Averbakh and Mikhail Beilin

What do you think the "basics of opening play" is?

Seems to me that the next part of the sentence gives a clue.

"... and that's why openings must be learned. ..." - Journey to the Chess Kingdom by Yuri Averbakh and Mikhail Beilin