Opening to counter the Scotch

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Ilampozhil25
undergroundbrownrice wrote:

Maybe play Nf6 instead of Nc6?

the 3 d4 line there is actually really really good for white

Blahblahamsksakka
lassus_dinnao wrote:

Bro, you can't "counter" an opening(unless it breaks opening principles like the fried liver). You can only survive it

I know that but a by "counter" I mean a variation for the opposing side to keep some advantage or make the postion equal but finding a variation for me is not easy for me and after finding one that favours my play style i still need to memorize until the mid game which for me personally is the hard part and not playing e5 at all for the scotch is specific for me is something i can't bear to deal with

Blahblahamsksakka
1983B-Boy wrote:

I don't want to hear you complaining about smith morras next!

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Get used to e5 too

Why? Sicilian is my speciality smith morra or not i have experience and knowledge of the Sicilian defense, if they play smith morra I will simply play the morra Gambit: advanced variation.

maafernan
Blahblahamsksakka wrote:
1983B-Boy wrote:

I don't want to hear you complaining about smith morras next!

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Get used to e5 too

Why? Sicilian is my speciality smith morra or not i have experience and knowledge of the Sicilian defense, if they play smith morra I will simply play the morra Gambit: advanced variation.

Hi!

I find this variation a nice way of avoiding the tricky Morra gambit. Instead of trying to punish it you stay in known Sicilian territory. I play it myself too.

By the way, for anyone interested in building an opening repertoire, I wrote a few post on the subject you could check out:

https://www.chess.com/blog/maafernan/openings-for-intermediates

https://www.chess.com/blog/maafernan/openings-for-beginners

https://www.chess.com/blog/maafernan/instructive-games-i-opening-principles

Good luck!

adityasaxena4

This is the Scotch Opening : Scotch Gambit , Haxo Gambit

Ziryab

Try the French.

oh-hill
chessterd5 đã viết:

play 2...,d6 go into a Phillidor and avoid all of it. if they play the Scotch all the time, take them out of their game and into yours.

But Philidor is kinda mid tho, not bad but never been too good

chessterd5

the Phillidor is perfectly playable on all levels. it is generally a more semi closed, slower positional game avoiding tactics. which a Scotch player wants the opposite of. the op wanted a counter to the Scotch. Nothing is more "counter" than not playing it at all.

GMGinzberg
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adityasaxena4

What I do against the Scotch is play either a6 or h6 and gambit the center pawn

Ilampozhil25
lassus_dinnao wrote:
Haxo gambit against scotch gambit
 
 
 
 
 
, Nf6 or Bc5 against normal scotch

heres something

1Lindamea1
Ilampozhil25 написал:
lassus_dinnao wrote:
Haxo gambit against scotch gambit
 
 
 
 
 
, Nf6 or Bc5 against normal scotch

heres something

that's italian gambit

Ilampozhil25

but after exd4 it is haxo gambit...

sorry, just by accepting a gambit its name doesnt change

this is the french sicilian for you, then

and some time ago this was the bishops opening boi variation?

gik-tally

haxo gambit favors white 55:41 in 1.9m games, but more popular 4...Nf6, the Dubois Réti Defense, scores 51:45 in 2.1m 1600-2000 rated games.. that's 7-8% better results

 
gik-tally

^ Scotch Game: Classical Intermezzo Variation 40:55@147k, but it's a sideline to 5.Be3 which is slightly more popular, and favors white at 52:43 with merely = results after 5...Qf6. after 4.Bc5, stats are 49:46 at 5.8m, but the 4.Qh5 steinitz's stats are 43:52@608k... much stronger results

i'm liking there isn't a lot of move branching in all 3 scotch lines, at least before move #7. i'm also liking seeing that the goering is rare for black to face, and is in fact the strongest scotch line as I wish to play it myself in companion to the double danish. that should be a potent repertoire to replace my king's gambits

kruppseer

I'm glad to hear that you found a solution to your chess opening dilemma! The Sicilian Defense is a popular and flexible choice, known for creating rich and complex positions on the board. It's great that you feel comfortable and well-versed in it. Best of luck with your chess games, and I hope you have a successful and enjoyable year of chess ahead! If you ever have more questions or need further assistance, feel free to reach out. Have a great year too!

TheSampson

Play into the mainlines. The Scotch is simple and easy to play against, but neither side can get a clear advantage early on.

Ziryab

At least one of the main lines is practically a forced draw: http://chessskill.blogspot.com/2023/08/a-glass-of-scotch.html

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