Openings for black?

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ChessSlimShady

I need a new opening for when I play as black. The opening that I used is not good enough for my section. So can you please suggest some openings for black, and include it on a board if you can.

sanath9999

Try French defense

MonkeyingAround

Unless the only replies that you are interested in are ones like the above you need to put much more effort into your request.

 

What do you play now?

Which one of your current defences do you want to replace?

What don't you like about your current defence?

What type of defence are you looking for?

Etc...

 

Anyway, how horrendous is your current opening that it isn't good enough for your current level? I would say that the Englund and Latvian gambits are both fine for you to play.

cdowis75

Check out the Pirc, if you feel comfortable with a closed, strategic style game.  Alot of players are heavy on tactical, open attack games, and you'll leave them scratching their head on almost any white opening.

grass-hopper
 
Against e4 I always like to play the French. It has sharp lines and is great fun to play.
 
 
 
grass-hopper
 
Against d4 I like to play the dzindzi indian. It takes your opponent off book real quick and often into unknown territory!
 
 
MonkeyingAround
grass-hopper wrote:
 
Against d4 I like to play the dzindzi indian. It takes your opponent off book real quick and often into unknown territory!
 
 
 

Why would anybody play 2.c4?

Jacksparov17

Actually it seems like benoni and modern. Well , i suggest the scandinabian against e4 and d5 against d4.

grass-hopper
MonkeyingAround wrote:
grass-hopper wrote:
 
Against d4 I like to play the dzindzi indian. It takes your opponent off book real quick and often into unknown territory!
 
 
 

Why would anybody play 2.c4?

This line is named after the grandmaster and two-time US Champion Roman Dzindzichashvili, who pioneered the defence in the 1980s. It looks like a strange cocktail of the Benoni, Dutch and Nimzo-Indian.

Black's decision to capture on c3 unbalances the position in a way he couldn't hope to do otherwise, and for this reason the Dzindzi-Indian is an effective line to play as Black if you are looking to win. One practical advantage from Black's point of view is that quiet responses by White tend to be at best unchallenging and sometime much worse than that, so the Dzindzi-Indian can be a successful choice against many players.

pfren

At your level you should not bother about openings, at all.

MonkeyingAround
grass-hopper wrote:
MonkeyingAround wrote:
grass-hopper wrote:
 
Against d4 I like to play the dzindzi indian. It takes your opponent off book real quick and often into unknown territory!
 
 
 

Why would anybody play 2.c4?

This line is named after the grandmaster and two-time US Champion Roman Dzindzichashvili, who pioneered the defence in the 1980s. It looks like a strange cocktail of the Benoni, Dutch and Nimzo-Indian.

Black's decision to capture on c3 unbalances the position in a way he couldn't hope to do otherwise, and for this reason the Dzindzi-Indian is an effective line to play as Black if you are looking to win. One practical advantage from Black's point of view is that quiet responses by White tend to be at best unchallenging and sometime much worse than that, so the Dzindzi-Indian can be a successful choice against many players.

Erm, okay? So, remind me, why would anybody play 2.c4?

grass-hopper
MonkeyingAround wrote:
grass-hopper wrote:
MonkeyingAround wrote:
grass-hopper wrote:
 
Against d4 I like to play the dzindzi indian. It takes your opponent off book real quick and often into unknown territory!
 
 
 

Why would anybody play 2.c4?

This line is named after the grandmaster and two-time US Champion Roman Dzindzichashvili, who pioneered the defence in the 1980s. It looks like a strange cocktail of the Benoni, Dutch and Nimzo-Indian.

Black's decision to capture on c3 unbalances the position in a way he couldn't hope to do otherwise, and for this reason the Dzindzi-Indian is an effective line to play as Black if you are looking to win. One practical advantage from Black's point of view is that quiet responses by White tend to be at best unchallenging and sometime much worse than that, so the Dzindzi-Indian can be a successful choice against many players.

Erm, okay? So, remind me, why would anybody play 2.c4?

Why not?

MonkeyingAround
pfren wrote:

At your level you should not bother about openings, at all.

I am sick of giving people this advice. It is of course entirely true, but they just get all flustered and defensive, as if you have offended them. Maybe they listen to you more because of your title?

MonkeyingAround
grass-hopper wrote:

More to the point, why not?

What point is that more to, exactly? That is a very stupid question anyway, you have failed to defend the e4 square and you ask why somebody should not play 2.c4? Are you serious?

grass-hopper

Yes I agree. It was a very stupid question.

MonkeyingAround
grass-hopper wrote:

Yes I agree. It was a very stupid question.

I can't tell if you have actually realised that this is true or if you think you are being clever but in reality just don't understand the English language.

extremechessproman

Jag tycker det är jättebra att flytta ut en bonde, kanske, sen så kan man göra något annat efter det. När man har gjort allt detta då kan man bara ställa drottningen där och vips så blir det schack matt!Laughing


grass-hopper

Okay.. peace

MonkeyingAround

Okay, now I know. You do realise that you are implying that you are victorious, right? Well done, you have achieved victory despite not even attempting to answer my only question. That takes some doing, pat yourself on the back!


P.S. That doesn't work nearly as well with "retards" as it does with "Christians".

ThrillerFan

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Saying things like "That's retarded" or "That's Gay" or "Retards are this" or "Gays are that" or "You got beat by a girl" or "Christians this" or "Muslims that", etc, just goes to show that your IQ is lower than that of the pigeon shown in message 18 (a moronic message in and of itself!).

I have a Nephew with Down Syndrome, friends that are gay, colored, Christian (yeah, targeting you too ding-dong author of message 19), non-Christian, female, etc.  None of them deserve to hear this kind of sh*t from that stupid moron pie hole of yours!  Say something intelligent, or else SHUDDUP!