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Nov 1, 2016
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#2
Follow Opening Principles:
1. Control the center.
2. Develop towards the center.
3. Castle.
4. Connect your rooks.
Double check your moves.
Make sure your pieces are safe.
Ask yourself after each of your opponents moves: "What is my opponnet trying to do?"
The opening starts earlier than that. White's main first moves, 1. e4 2. d4 1. c4 1. f4 have names (1. Nf3 and 1. Nc3 have more than one name or will transpose to something and people argue about what to call them.)
After something like 1. e4 or 1. d4 Black's Defenses main mostly have names already. 1. e4 c5 Sicilian Defense. ... 1. d4 Nf6 ... Indian Defenses
After that some of White's second moves have another name and Black's second moves might have another name still and we're up to the point where you mentioned you can see the opening Black is using to counter White's opening... which may or may not even be true depending on the line as many moves are yet to be played. Openings with a lot of theory will have many branches all with different names... eg. Open Game, Sicilian, Open Sicilian, Najdorf Variation, English Attack, and probably more named variations inside of that, but players are right when they suggest following principals. Eventually you might want to learn all the variations you intend to play which may or may not include an Open Sicilian... you can narrow down a tree with your responses and all the variations the oppenent could play and only those... eg... as White you play 1. d4, as Black you answer 1. e4 with 1... e5, now you don't have to study the Sicilian. ... as White you play 1. e4 c5 2. Nc3, now you don't have to study the Open Sicilian. etc...
tmkroll wrote:
f4 (Bird's Defense) isn't one of White's main openings. It weakens the kingside too much. I used to play it.
The opening starts earlier than that. White's main first moves, 1. e4 2. d4 1. c4 1. f4 have names (1. Nf3 and 1. Nc3 have more than one name or will transpose to something and people argue about what to call them.)
After something like 1. e4 or 1. d4 Black's Defenses main mostly have names already. 1. e4 c5 Sicilian Defense. ... 1. d4 Nf6 ... Indian Defenses
After that some of White's second moves have another name and Black's second moves might have another name still and we're up to the point where you mentioned you can see the opening Black is using to counter White's opening... which may or may not even be true depending on the line as many moves are yet to be played. Openings with a lot of theory will have many branches all with different names... eg. Open Game, Sicilian, Open Sicilian, Najdorf Variation, English Attack, and probably more named variations inside of that, but players are right when they suggest following principals. Eventually you might want to learn all the variations you intend to play which may or may not include an Open Sicilian... you can narrow down a tree with your responses and all the variations the oppenent could play and only those... eg... as White you play 1. d4, as Black you answer 1. e4 with 1... e5, now you don't have to study the Sicilian. ... as White you play 1. e4 c5 2. Nc3, now you don't have to study the Open Sicilian. etc...
It depends what you mean by "main." I guess I didn't include 1. b3, 1. b4, or 1. g3 which are arguably better but a bit further from the center. Bird's opening is a pawn push which claims central space and it has a name. That's what I was going for. Other options are common main but the Bird Opening is a real opening and not some random move. I mentioned the rare 1. Nc3 too. Partly I was just trying to be symetrical with Nf3 and c4 which, ok, are much more common moves but you do have to look at the Bird at some point when you look at openings.
tmkroll wrote:
It depends what you mean by "main." I guess I didn't include 1. b3, 1. b4, or 1. g3 which are arguably better but a bit further from the center. Bird's opening is a pawn push which claims central space and it has a name. That's what I was going for. Other options are common main but the Bird Opening is a real opening and not some random move. I mentioned the rare 1. Nc3 too. Partly I was just trying to be symetrical with Nf3 and c4 which, ok, are much more common moves but you do have to look at the Bird at some point when you look at openings.
According to your proclamation, 1.h4 should be also great.Right?
tmkroll wrote:
I didn't just look at the Bird, I used to play it extensively. Then I got wrecked by my opponents then decided to switch to the English. Then again, that was months ago when I knew barely anything about opening theory.
It depends what you mean by "main." I guess I didn't include 1. b3, 1. b4, or 1. g3 which are arguably better but a bit further from the center. Bird's opening is a pawn push which claims central space and it has a name. That's what I was going for. Other options are common main but the Bird Opening is a real opening and not some random move. I mentioned the rare 1. Nc3 too. Partly I was just trying to be symetrical with Nf3 and c4 which, ok, are much more common moves but you do have to look at the Bird at some point when you look at openings.
tmkroll wrote:
I didn't just look at the Bird, I used to play it extensively. Then I got wrecked by my opponents then decided to switch to the English. Then again, that was months ago when I knew barely anything about opening theory.
It depends what you mean by "main." I guess I didn't include 1. b3, 1. b4, or 1. g3 which are arguably better but a bit further from the center. Bird's opening is a pawn push which claims central space and it has a name. That's what I was going for. Other options are common main but the Bird Opening is a real opening and not some random move. I mentioned the rare 1. Nc3 too. Partly I was just trying to be symetrical with Nf3 and c4 which, ok, are much more common moves but you do have to look at the Bird at some point when you look at openings.
I said which moves I chose based on how common they're played, whether they have a specific name and a lot of theory, and whether they grab the center. 1. h4 was not considered mostly doesn't grab the center. 1. f4 does. 1. g3 and 1. b4 prepare to fianchetto and grab the center. Actually 1. h4 is a good example of "some random move" which is not as much of a "main"line as the Bird. The Bird does weaken the kingside but is a mainline opening played by serious players who are looking for an advantage with the White pieces (whether or not they can theorically get it.) (I think 1. h4 has one or two names but it has not been favored by masters like 1. f4 either.)
Each move defines a position with the word 'defence' defining black's response. There are limits to names. They can mislead. So number codes are often used. Chess players often bandy about opening names to impress players slightly inferior to themselves -especially young players - it lets them show off their 'knowledge'.
Ziggy_Zugzwang wrote:
Each move defines a position with the word 'defence' defining black's response. There are limits to names. They can mislead. So number codes are often used. Chess players often bandy about opening names to impress players slightly inferior to themselves -especially young players - it lets them show off their 'knowledge'.
"Chess players often bandy about opening names to impress players slightly inferior to themselves -especially young players - it lets them show off their 'knowledge'"
Such a true statement! There is something about youg players, and beginners that love to try and impress people with their "I know the <insert opening here> 20 moves deep" And when they lose, they bust out the "You didnt play theory" excuse.
Nov 2, 2016
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#13
GodsPawn2016 escribió:
Follow Opening Principles:
1. Control the center.
2. Develop towards the center.
3. Castle.
4. Connect your rooks.
Double check your moves.
Make sure your pieces are safe.
Ask yourself after each of your opponents moves: "What is my opponnet trying to do?"
Ok, so you are definitely a bot.
You get the title text, and depending on it you autopost an already saved txt file.
In this case the title said "Opening" and you psoted the same thing as in other similar threads.
The dude asked a kind of stupid question, but your answer had nothing to do with his question.
GREETINGS.
BronsteinPawn wrote:
GodsPawn2016 escribió:
Follow Opening Principles:
1. Control the center.
2. Develop towards the center.
3. Castle.
4. Connect your rooks.
Double check your moves.
Make sure your pieces are safe.
Ask yourself after each of your opponents moves: "What is my opponnet trying to do?"
Ok, so you are definitely a bot.
You get the title text, and depending on it you autopost an already saved txt file.
In this case the title said "Opening" and you psoted the same thing as in other similar threads.
The dude asked a kind of stupid question, but your answer had nothing to do with his question.
GREETINGS.
My post perfectly answered the OP's question. The OP is way over thinking the opening, and i posted a way to simplify it.
Nov 2, 2016
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#15
Oh, the dud that coded you must be pretty good at it, you also come with answers to conspiracy theories against you.
C# or Java?
BronsteinPawn wrote:
Oh, the dud that coded you must be pretty good at it, you also come with answers to conspiracy theories against you.
C# or Java?
Yes i do enjoy coffee!
Nov 2, 2016
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#17
OH HELL NO, THEY ALSO CODED WITH YOU WITH A COUNTERATTACK I DONT UNDERSTAND.
SOMEONE HELP ME.
Can someone tell me if this is right:
When the game begins the white player plays then the black, then the white again and then the black.
Only now you can see the openings that black is using to counter the white's opening.
Is that right?
Could you pls give me a list of the most used openings and the counter opening for that one?
Help me guys im new, i apologise if i said something very wrong :D.I just want to know if my thoughts are ok and what i have to study first.
Thanks.