People playing the queen early

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Apotek

I think Nakamura has tried e4,e5,Qh5 in a serious game

leiph15

A serious game, against a lower rated opponent, which he drew.

And then another one against a lower rated opponent where he lost.

Obviously for psychological value, and even then it didn't work.

Apotek

oh ok leiph,I didn't know the details,thanks.

leiph15
Harisha837 wrote:

Qh5 is sound for tactical players

 

That game is too advanced for XPLAYERJX.

XPLAYERJX gets his lessons from a guy nammed Kerry Shrits who is rated 747.

Here is a game XPLAYER can understand:



leiph15
LongIslandMark wrote:

Search the 600 other threads on this: 2...Nc6, or the gambit 2...Nf6, and Black is fine.

No, Harish837 is correct. It's a forced win for white so long as black plays poorly.

No other opening can boast this.

Apotek

how about e4,e6,Qe2

adumbrate
 
my favourite
 
 
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leiph15
XPLAYERJX wrote:

Leiph it is obvious you are nothing more than a troll I never had that commentary.

Just because someone is an idiot, doesn't mean you can't learn from them.

I hope my game in post #49 helps you become a grandmaster. But remember you're going to have to seriously study it to understand it.

glamdring27

Ke2...a very common 3rd move.  Getting your Queen out early is so last century.  All the real experts go for an early king foray nowadays.

lolurspammed

Qh5 isn't anymore tactical than a normal opening. Offbeat =\= tactical.

Apotek

i like harisha's play,well done!

lolurspammed

Harisha would you play Qh5 if you're playing a standard game?

Apotek

hi longislandMark,the second game i got the impression it could have gone either way but the nakamura game..i had the feeling white was in severe trouble already by move 10 or so.Nf6 seems the most venomous.i think i'm convinced the queen sallies are ok for blitz but not ok for anything slower than that.great games,very instructive.

lolurspammed

There are no benefits to the move Qh5 besides possibly confusing your opponent.

glamdring27

There are numerous benefits for your opponent!

Hawksteinman

I early move my queen. It's quite attackingful.

davewalker987

I see a psychological advantage in playing the Queen early, particularly in OTB. If your opponent is sat there expecting the usual careful development of pawns and knights and the sudden launch of your Queen in the second or third move takes him/her by surprise and spoils their plan then it could be a good thing. As long as you can see a safe escape route if needed.

Murgen

Any opening memoriser worth their salt would get that analysed and then memorise it! Laughing

leiph18
Harisha837 wrote:
Murgen wrote:

Any opening memoriser worth their salt would get that analysed and then memorise it!

The only opening memorizing i've done is to counter opening memorizers who memorize cheap shit like Queen's gambit.

Yeah.

Here's one such idiot winning with the queens gambit.



Alec289
davewalker987 wrote:

I see a psychological advantage in playing the Queen early, particularly in OTB.

It's  a violation of general principles time is a luxury you don't have in the opening every move you waste is a plus for your opponent who's in a race with you to get his whole army on the board as quickly as he can.

When he's fully developed after 8-9 moves and you have nothing in particular and your attempts to spook him with your Queen fail it's not going to end well.