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Yigor
Mar 25, 2011
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#1

Damn, there are no bishop openings at height 0, U should move at least 1 pawn.Laughing

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height 0 and 1: nothing

height 2:

  • symmetrical fianchettos 1.g3 g6 2.Bg2 Bg6 and  1.b3 b6 2. Bb2 Bb6  (+0.07)
  • fianchetto vs. centretto 1.g3 e6 2.Bg2 Be7 (+0.15) 
  • centretto vs. fianchetto 1.e3 g6 2.Be2 Bg7  (0.00)
  • bishops opposition 1.e3 b6 2.Be2 Bb7 3.Bf3  (0.00)
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Yigor
Mar 25, 2011
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#2

Hmm ... how about this one at height 2 played in 2,244 master games according to Game Explorer?

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Yigor
Mar 25, 2011
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#3

CristianSoldier: it doesn't work. Bishops will take rooks instead.Wink

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Yigor
Mar 25, 2011
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#4
DafyddTheIgnorant wrote:

the bishop opening is 2. bc4

 LoL and this is not a bishop opening for U?

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Yigor
Mar 25, 2011
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#5

Dafy: U are pedantic blindly following ECO terminology. A bishop opening is everything where U move only pawns and bishops, dats clear.Cool

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Yigor
Mar 25, 2011
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#6

Rich: an awesome bishop opening, I also spoke about it in the post #8.Wink

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Yigor
Mar 25, 2011
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#7

Okay dudes, I found the official Rybka's classification of bishop openings after 1.e4 e5 :

  1.  2...Bc4  +0.04
  2.  2...Be2  +0.00
  3.  2...Bd3  -0.04
  4.  2...Bb5  -0.07

Conclusion: 1.e4 e5 2.Be2! is definitely an underestimated opening!Laughing Actually, I tried it in 1 game recently.Wink

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Yigor
Mar 25, 2011
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#8

It seems that 1.e4 e5 2.Be2 transposes into a reasonably good Vienna game, dats the reason.Cool

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RothKevin
Mar 25, 2011
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#9

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Yigor
Mar 25, 2011
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#10

RothKevin: LoL nice bishop's version of the fool's mate!Laughing

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Lokaz
Mar 25, 2011
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#11

One could also play the Levitzky's Attack's mirror, the Portugese Opening.

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Yigor
Mar 26, 2011
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#12

Here's a funny opening 1.e3 b6 2. Be2 Bb7 3.Bf3, kinda bishops opposition, of height 2 with the score around strict 0 :

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Yigor
Mar 26, 2011
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#13

Lokaz: yeah, I knew that one.Wink

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Yigor
Mar 26, 2011
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#14
rich wrote:
Yigor wrote:

Okay dudes, I found the official Rybka's classification of bishop openings after 1.e4 e5 :

 2...Bc4  +0.04  2...Be2  +0.00  2...Bd3  -0.04  2...Bb5  -0.07

Conclusion: 1.e4 e5 2.Be2! is definitely an underestimated opening! Actually, I tried it in 1 game recently.

I don't really understand those classifications. Please clarify.

 Sorry, I spoke just about evaluations of openings by Rybka available on the web.

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Yigor
Mar 26, 2011
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#15
rich wrote:

how can 2.Bb5 be worse than 2.Bd3

Obvious, no? If there's no knight on Nf6, Bb5 is virtually useless move.

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Yigor
Mar 27, 2011
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#16
rich wrote:

Don't you mean Nc6?? And Bd3 blocks the d pawn, you might have to play c3 with Bc2 following. And no master has never played 2.Bd3, but 2.Bb5 has been played 44 times according to games explorer.

Yeah Nc6 of course, sorry. With 2.Bd3 I found the following line in databases

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Yigor
Mar 27, 2011
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#17

Nothing exceptional but nothing bad for white as well.Cool

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Yigor
Mar 27, 2011
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#18

Yeah, more or less useless. Just my opinion.

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wbbaxterbones
Mar 27, 2011
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#19

There, bishop opening.
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TheWinningGenius
Mar 27, 2011
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#20
RothKevin wrote:

 

that is a bishop mate not an opening Tongue out