I agree, it should be more popular.
And I always get the feeling d4 players don't like it.
I think its because when people decide to play the queens gambit, often the first two variations they look at are the QGA and the QGD. This is natural, as they are the two fundamental and classical components of this system.
Because of this ive also felt as though playing the QGA would be giving QG players what they want, something theyre ensured to enjoy, if they didnt why would they play QG?
Thats my view anyway.
I agree, it should be more popular.
And I always get the feeling d4 players don't like it.
True.Most players dont even prepare for it,it feels so annoying when black just accepts the pawn.
Hmmmm i love when black takes the pawn. In some cases i have it planned out to move 20. It has pretty much stoppen in Vote Chess for good reason as White can have pawns at d4 and e4 and take total control of the center.
Hmmmm i love when black takes the pawn. In some cases i have it planned out to move 20. It has pretty much stoppen in Vote Chess for good reason as White can have pawns at d4 and e4 and take total control of the center.
But can't Black strike out with an early c5 and a timed e5 break to disrupt the center?White usually plays e3 becoz e4 might make the centre vulnerable to c5 and e5 breaks.
White has all kinds of options at this point. Black should plan to develop as White will want to get that pawn back if they sticking to the main line.
Disrupting the center. This opens things up for white to have targets on either wing. And still white can take the center first. This a site with a majority of e4 players. Try this on site with more experience QG players and you will wish you never heard of the QGA.
I think its because when people decide to play the queens gambit, often the first two variations they look at are the QGA and the QGD. This is natural, as they are the two fundamental and classical components of this system.
Because of this ive also felt as though playing the QGA would be giving QG players what they want, something theyre ensured to enjoy, if they didnt why would they play QG?
Thats my view anyway.
Exactly. The first thing we are taught when learning opening ideas. To try to get pawns at d4 and e4 at the same time and as soon as possible and that is what the QGA allows.
White has all kinds of options at this point. Black should plan to develop as White will want to get that pawn back if they sticking to the main line.
Disrupting the center. This opens things up for white to have targets on either wing. And still white can take the center first. This a site with a majority of e4 players. Try this on site with more experience QG players and you will wish you never heard of the QGA.
Ì was talking about going after the centre after black is devloped.Im sure there a lot of QG players in ths site who can help us out as Im an e4 player myself.
If you try that then they go into the 4 Pawns attack and since you are so looking foward to the QG you might get caught off guard.
Your looking for a QG player on this site. Too many frauds. They know the moves but lack the theory.
Yes Black has to develop. And white will have a Pawn majoriyt in the center which will give him 2 more strategies i can add to this thread. So it is just plain bad to try it against a player who has serios experience playing it. Yeah you will beat these QG frauds here and have a false sense of strength until you come across the real thing and wonder what happened and how you got crushed.
The KID is much better in the QGD.
If you try that then they go into the 4 Pawns attack and since you are so looking foward to the QG you might get caught off guard.
Your looking for a QG player on this site. Too many frauds. They know the moves but lack the theory.
Yes Black has to develop. And white will have a Pawn majoriyt in the center which will give him 2 more strategies i can add to this thread. So it is just plain bad to try it against a player who has serios experience playing it. Yeah you will beat these QG frauds here and have a false sense of strength until you come across the real thing and wonder what happened and how you got crushed.
The KID is much better in the QGD.
If I'm booked up,I won't get crushed against a stronger pkayer becoz of the opening but becoz he is stronger than me.Because no matter how experienced they may be,I wont get a bad position out of the opening if im prepared.I dint get what you meant by "The KID is much better in the QGD"
Any world champions who made their living with the QGA?
Kasparov played it at least 8 times against Kramnik alone, probably against other players too. He has 2 wins, 1 loss and the rest draws
Fischer relied on the QGA in his second match with Spassky. Other World Champions who included the QGA in their repertoire were Steintz, Alekhine, and Botvinnik.
I always play QG and whether its accepted or declined an interesting game always ensues! The IQP is a double edged sword, not a liability as some think, there are ways to play it whether you get it or your opponent gets it.
The line that worries me is 1.d4 d5 2.c4 dc 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.e3 e6 5.Bxc4 c5 6.Qe2 with the idea of playing e4-e5. I have a hard time staying on the board here.
I started using 4...g6 5.Bxc4 Bg7 6.Nc3 O-O 7.O-O Nfd7 to avoid it but that can be hard to play too.
The line that worries me is 1.d4 d5 2.c4 dc 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.e3 e6 5.Bxc4 c5 6.Qe2 with the idea of playing e4-e5. I have a hard time staying on the board here.
I started using 4...g6 5.Bxc4 Bg7 6.Nc3 O-O 7.O-O Nfd7 to avoid it but that can be hard to play too.
You could try to play the 4...Bg4 line, advocated by Andrew Martin and Sam Collins, and it's a line which Avrukh apparently wanted to avoid in his book.
Don't you guys think that the QGA is underrated?Black seems to get decent positions with good deveopment and white has an isolated QP.It seems so natural and good,Wonder why it isn't played too much.