?Question about the Grunfeld

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Kernicterus

I prefer fish to chicken.  I feel the Grunfeld is more pleasant to play from Black.  I get stressed out from tight spaces on the board. 

darshandatta
Grunèld has number of lines that aren't even studied by super grandmasters. If you want to take your opponent into the cloud of uncertainty of tactical battle grunfeld is probably better than KID. Its my view and it need not to be same as other.
waffllemaster

Heh, you've picked two of the most difficult openings to navigate as black. 

IMO these are not openings to grow on Tongue out if you feel comfortable playing them now, as you move up you'll only find more challenges.

waffllemaster
marvellosity wrote:

You're missing something, Biarien.

Gruenfeld has a multitude of mainlines:

Exchange setups: (cxd5 Nxd5 e4 Nxc3 bxc3) White plays Nf3 and Be3, White plays Nf3 and Rb1, White plays Bc4

Bf4 setups

Bg5 setups

Fianchetto Gruenfeld setups (g3/Bg2)

e3 setups

The Russian System (Qb3)

and that's without going into the multitude of important sidelines like 5.Bd2 in the exchange, etc. etc.


Yes.

Again this is my opinion, but the problem a sub-master faces when choosing the KID or Grunfeld is white has the easier side.  Your side requires much more study and precision to pull off.

benonidoni
Loomis wrote:
Alphastar18 wrote:
marvellosity wrote:

Alphastar: Certainly in the position by the OP, 10.dxc5 is not a 'computer move'. Computers these days are well able to evaluate that the capture is not beneficial to them.


I disagree and already explained my position. Maybe you can give some arguments.


I looked at the position at move 9 in the original post with Fritz8. At 11 ply, 9. dxc5 was 7th on the list with evaluation -0.03, the top two moves were 0.28 and 0.25. At 12 ply 9. dxc5 doesn't even make the top 10.

Fritz8 isn't exactly up to date software. But already by that time computers could see deep enough and use the info about the weak pawns to stay away from moves like 9. dxc5. State of the art software will see a little deeper and with improved evaluation -- no computer these days is going to make the mistake 9. dxc5.

Two decades ago, this is the kind of mistake computers would make.


 My Fritz 13 never even mentions this idea. Its that poor of a move. Just obvious as the other people have mentioned not to take. But don't blame fritz he agrees 100% not to take.