Race to 100: Jobava London vs The London System

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vishnu_vijay_93
rychessmaster1 wrote:
vishnu_vijay_93 wrote:

we can have a competition between jobava and the london on the amount of traps which give white an advantage

Define trap though

something unexpected(from black's POV) that gives white an advantage

vishnu_vijay_93
K-O-24-B-E wrote:

change it to $10 but you got to pay up if u lose

nah, 50$ is fine for me

vishnu_vijay_93
vishnu_vijay_93 wrote:
K-O-24-B-E wrote:

change it to $10 but you got to pay up if u lose

nah, 50$ is fine for me

if he wants to make it 10 its fine ig

vishnu_vijay_93
K-O-24-B-E wrote:

best of 9? idk what format 

too long, first to 3 wins seems to be fine

vishnu_vijay_93
K-O-24-B-E wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:

I probably won’t stream it I was kidding lol

think how many viewers you will get if you do

yeah if u stream I will ask my twitch community to raid u( idk if it will work tho)

rychessmaster1
K-O-24-B-E wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:

I probably won’t stream it I was kidding lol

think how many viewers you will get if you do

15? Lol

Paul_the_best_Morphy

How do you study the Jobava?

vishnu_vijay_93
K-O-24-B-E wrote:
vishnu_vijay_93 wrote:
K-O-24-B-E wrote:

best of 9? idk what format 

too long, first to 3 wins seems to be fine

I mean if its blitz at least make it first to 5 

its a wager it cant end quick 

fine, first to 5 wins, draws count tho so if the score is 4-3 and we have 2 draws the player with 4 points wins

Steven-ODonoghue
Paul_the_best_Morphy wrote:

How do you study the Jobava?

Simon Williams has a chessable course which is what I use. AFAIK it's the only documentation on the Jobava

rychessmaster1
Paul_the_best_Morphy wrote:

How do you study the Jobava?

I have a giant chessbase file on it

 

rychessmaster1

this trap has gotten hundreds of thousands of people including Magnus(granted it got him in bullet but still)

 

vishnu_vijay_93

Rebus disappeared.. o.0

vishnu_vijay_93

this one got sam shankland in classsical chess( I believe it was the US open) the game went on but white(gata kamsky) won the game

Steven-ODonoghue
vishnu_vijay_93 wrote:

this one got sam shankland in classsical chess( I believe it was the US open) the game went on but white(gata kamsky) won the game

The chess.com engine says black is winning in the final position

vishnu_vijay_93
Steven-ODonoghue wrote:
vishnu_vijay_93 wrote:

this one got sam shankland in classsical chess( I believe it was the US open) the game went on but white(gata kamsky) won the game

The chess.com engine says black is winning in the final position

I forgot to say that I messed up in the last few moves and engine usually thinks this wins for black but on deeper depth the evaluation changes, oddly, when Nxd7 was played, the only way to save the game was Qxd7! which leads to a draw

2Nf31-0

idk

Steven-ODonoghue
rychessmaster1 wrote:

this trap has gotten hundreds of thousands of people including Magnus(granted it got him in bullet but still)

 

I checked the l*chess.org database and even at the 2200+ level 4.Nc6 is still the most popular move by far, even though it is completely losing. Thats what separates the Jobava from the original London, in the London, most of the traps are either really obvious or rarely occur in practice. But not the Jobava

vishnu_vijay_93
Steven-ODonoghue wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:

this trap has gotten hundreds of thousands of people including Magnus(granted it got him in bullet but still)

 

I checked the l*chess.org database and even at the 2200+ level 4.Nc6 is still the most popular move by far, even though it is completely losing. Thats what separates the Jobava from the original London, in the London, most of the traps are either really obvious or rarely occur in practice. But not the Jobava

well no, none of the traps in the london are obvious, wdym!

vishnu_vijay_93

find the trap here, there is only a small chance that U will find the move without having prepped this position before

Steven-ODonoghue
vishnu_vijay_93 wrote:
Steven-ODonoghue wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:

this trap has gotten hundreds of thousands of people including Magnus(granted it got him in bullet but still)

 

I checked the l*chess.org database and even at the 2200+ level 4.Nc6 is still the most popular move by far, even though it is completely losing. Thats what separates the Jobava from the original London, in the London, most of the traps are either really obvious or rarely occur in practice. But not the Jobava

well no, none of the traps in the london are obvious, wdym!

I said that they are either obvious, or they barely ever occur in practice. Find me a trap in the London where black is dead lost after his 4th move, that has occurred 10s of thousands of times in high level play. There isn't one.