Thanks for your comments all. Maybe I should try the Berlin...I just hate that white can grab on c6 and get steady pressure against e5 and great squares for his knights. Its almost like the Lopez is a refutation to 1...e5 because he can simply exchange and have the better chances in the endgame.
Ruy Lopez 3...d6
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This seems to be the only move that avoids the 'Spanish Torture' And gives black a clear plan of trying to liberate his dark square bishop... Any ideas for or against this system for black??