Aggressive Kitty @
What bullshit ? An assessment that white is better with perfect play doesn't mean that the opening doesn't deserve to be playable for black. Unless your opponent is not human.
How about the worse endings? What is your experience little Kitty in Schliemann endings? Why I have the impression that you don't? It's because from the game you posted?
Leave it Maestro...you worth nada. Look elsewhere to type your Novelties.
Ok. Have fun defending your slightly worse endgames. Meanwhile, I will wonder why any amateur plays this as an opening strategy.
Amateur? I have played several times against similer rated people, won every time. It becomes drawish at master level
Are you calling Magnus carlson an amateur? He has played it
So has:
Siegbert Tarrasch
frank marshall
Teimour Radjabov
Richard Retiand more. Many GMs have played it with sucsess. (and lower level players, and some Super GMs)
As for the slightly worse endgames, that happens to black with perfect play in any opening, and I happen to like blacks easy and fun play here
Really? Even Timur Gareev played 1.d4 d6 2.e4 h6 once, and went on to draw. Doesn't mean that it's a good opening.
A good opening for black is that it gives you good chances for a playable middle game with out allow white to gain an early positional advantage. In the beginning of my experience using Schliemann I was sceptical too about black chances to give a fight but as I continue play the opening I am realizing there are potential for white to make dubious moves and lost his advantage even in a slightly better ending for him.
If Garrev's idea was totally unplayable why a GM class of Akobian didn't found the way to beat him? The theory of relativity exist on the chess board too.
Thanks for the info on 4) d3, I am interested to examine it in more detail as an alternative to 4) Nc3. A friend of mine used to play the Schliemann against me many years ago and always did very well with it. I often played 4) Nc3, but rather than 4..fxe, he played 4... Nd4!, and I never could seem to find what White's best fifth move would be. I often succeeded in chasing his king across the board, but he always seemed to find a way to withstand the attack and eventually win. Here's a game that reminds me of my Schliemann encounters with him:
http://www.365chess.com/game.php?gid=71618
Thanks for the info on 4) d3, I am interested to examine it in more detail as an alternative to 4) Nc3. A friend of mine used to play the Schliemann against me many years ago and always did very well with it. I often played 4) Nc3, but rather than 4..fxe, he played 4... Nd4!, and I never could seem to find what White's best fifth move would be. I often succeeded in chasing his king across the board, but he always seemed to find a way to withstand the attack and eventually win. Here's a game that reminds me of my Schliemann encounters with him:
Interesting game! Unfortunately, this is the only line I am unfamiliar with. Perhaps anyone else has some unput?
So, the exchange variation gives black a pawn disadvantage but chances, but I have always had a great position if white does not do that
I dont find myself rude, if I am playing vs a GM who knows the opening perfectly I dont mind going into a slightly worse ending. And it is not an opening strategy, that is vs someone who has memorized enough theory to get there. I feel very comfortable playing this opening, and I get nice positions with it.