Is this a good Scotch line as Black?
Yes, it is absolutely fine, but it's just the first page of the book.
You have to know a bit more against 6.Qd2 and 6.Qf3, and also something about the more fashionable 5.Nb3 (in place of 5.Nxc6).
This is a good question to ask whenever you become an intermediate player.
wow, you're so good! you're an IM! AMAZING! You don't need to go around every forum and rub it in everybody's face.
That's uncalled-for. His point is a valid one, as OP is U1500 blitz and U1300 rapid, and at that level, pieces (plural intended) are hung every single game, so players in that ELO band have bigger issues to worry about than a choice between two ultra-solid openings. Scotch ftw though. It's simple, it's aggressive, and your opponents will be less prepared for it than the Italian at this rating.
Yes, I concede that OP isn't great, but EVERYWHERE I see pfren being "mean" (can't find a better word) to weaker people.
Perhaps it's his personality. Personally I try really hard to be nice to people who want to improve, and get pissed off a lot when someone comes and starts being mean.
Brusque, blunt, no-nonsense perhaps, but not mean. Just because pfren doesn't sugarcoat what actually needs to be said doesn't mean it's mean. It may not come off as nice, but if it helps as I expect it will, it's much more of a kindness than validating bad habits like a lot of people online do. There's nothing wrong with being nice, but there's also nothing wrong with getting straight to the heart of the matter either.
I said that I couldn't find a better word.. Not mean perhaps but overtly blunt and candid.
Also, why is your definition for "intermediate" so high? Shouldn't it be somewhere between 1200 and 1600?
(EDIT) Ah, I see. You're a blitz player. Never mind, rating inflation and blunders.
BTW, both openings are fine. If you are a beginner, definitely play the italian. But you're not, so both work. I would say italian if you're looking for a positional and quiet game, scotch if you prefer more open ones. I don't really like the exchanges but like the goring and gambit variations of the scotch.
Sicilian is also great. I play the sicilian. It's theoretical and requires some dedication, but is quite fun. At your level, you may not be able to pull it off, but it could be a nice surprise weapon.
BTW, both openings are fine. If you are a beginner, definitely play the italian. But you're not, so both work. I would say italian if you're looking for a positional and quiet game, scotch if you prefer more open ones. I don't really like the exchanges but like the goring and gambit variations of the scotch.
Sicilian is also great. I play the sicilian. It's theoretical and requires some dedication, but is quite fun. At your level, you may not be able to pull it off, but it could be a nice surprise weapon.
Uhh Italian is very open with attacking oportunities for white
BTW, both openings are fine. If you are a beginner, definitely play the italian. But you're not, so both work. I would say italian if you're looking for a positional and quiet game, scotch if you prefer more open ones. I don't really like the exchanges but like the goring and gambit variations of the scotch.
Sicilian is also great. I play the sicilian. It's theoretical and requires some dedication, but is quite fun. At your level, you may not be able to pull it off, but it could be a nice surprise weapon.
Uhh Italian is very open with attacking oportunities for white
Well the centre attack is. But at the OP's level people are likely to respond with Giuocco Piano or Pianossimo, so most games turn out to be very boring (at least for me).
Uhh Italian is very open with attacking oportunities for white
The Scotch is the most “open” of all the Open Games
GM Alexander Khalifman, former FIDE WC.
Both the Scotch and the Italian with an early c3 and d4 lead to very open games, with an emphasis on development and piece play. Both are fine for a less experienced player
BTW, both openings are fine. If you are a beginner, definitely play the italian. But you're not, so both work. I would say italian if you're looking for a positional and quiet game, scotch if you prefer more open ones. I don't really like the exchanges but like the goring and gambit variations of the scotch.
Sicilian is also great. I play the sicilian. It's theoretical and requires some dedication, but is quite fun. At your level, you may not be able to pull it off, but it could be a nice surprise weapon.
Uhh Italian is very open with attacking oportunities for white
Have you ever even heard of the Scotch before? There is NO WAY you're saying the ITALIAN is MORE open and attacking than the SCOTCH.
BTW, both openings are fine. If you are a beginner, definitely play the italian. But you're not, so both work. I would say italian if you're looking for a positional and quiet game, scotch if you prefer more open ones. I don't really like the exchanges but like the goring and gambit variations of the scotch.
Yeah. The exchanges are merely the ones that score best. I personally enjoy the Goring and Classical mainlines too.
This is a good question to ask whenever you become an intermediate player.
wow, you're so good! you're an IM! AMAZING! You don't need to go around every forum and rub it in everybody's face.
That's uncalled-for. His point is a valid one, as OP is U1500 blitz and U1300 rapid, and at that level, pieces (plural intended) are hung every single game, so players in that ELO band have bigger issues to worry about than a choice between two ultra-solid openings. Scotch ftw though. It's simple, it's aggressive, and your opponents will be less prepared for it than the Italian at this rating.
Yes, I concede that OP isn't great, but EVERYWHERE I see pfren being "mean" (can't find a better word) to weaker people.
Perhaps it's his personality. Personally I try really hard to be nice to people who want to improve, and get pissed off a lot when someone comes and starts being mean.
Brusque, blunt, no-nonsense perhaps, but not mean. Just because pfren doesn't sugarcoat what actually needs to be said doesn't mean it's mean. It may not come off as nice, but if it helps as I expect it will, it's much more of a kindness than validating bad habits like a lot of people online do. There's nothing wrong with being nice, but there's also nothing wrong with getting straight to the heart of the matter either.
I said that I couldn't find a better word.. Not mean perhaps but overtly blunt and candid.
Also, why is your definition for "intermediate" so high? Shouldn't it be somewhere between 1200 and 1600?
(EDIT) Ah, I see. You're a blitz player. Never mind, rating inflation and blunders.
Yep. 1200 blitz and 1200 rapid are two completely different worlds, no worries.
Is this a good Scotch line as Black?
Yes, it is absolutely fine, but it's just the first page of the book.
You have to know a bit more against 6.Qd2 and 6.Qf3, and also something about the more fashionable 5.Nb3 (in place of 5.Nxc6).
Thanks! I have some plans, but I am not sure the lines I found are the best.
Is this a good Scotch line as Black?
Yes, it is absolutely fine, but it's just the first page of the book.
You have to know a bit more against 6.Qd2 and 6.Qf3, and also something about the more fashionable 5.Nb3 (in place of 5.Nxc6).
Thanks! I have some plans, but I am not sure the lines I found are the best.
You can cut down your reading by answering 5.Nxc6 with 5...bxc6, which is good enough (and there is some theory on it, but less than 5...Qf6).
Against 5.Nb3 Bb6 6.Qe2 (or 6.Nc3 Nf6 7.Qe2), I recommend playing without an early ...d6.
i think the scotch because of its fast develpoment
Is this a good Scotch line as Black?
No, this line is actually good for White. Qf3 or Qd2 defending the f2 square and you'll be fine.