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the chess analysis is broken it says that its -40 for black in this position even though it's clearly a draw.

as white you can draw stockfish with your eyes closed.

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Sameer_chess-player wrote:

the chess analysis is broken it says that its -40 for black in this position even though it's clearly a draw.

as white you can draw stockfish with your eyes closed.

Yeah. Computers can't process blockades.

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and look at this screenshot by my brother when he computer analysed this position

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Sameer_chess-player wrote:

and look at this screenshot by my brother when he computer analysed this position

 

really weird

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JackRoach wrote:
Sameer_chess-player wrote:

the chess analysis is broken it says that its -40 for black in this position even though it's clearly a draw.

as white you can draw stockfish with your eyes closed.

Yeah. Computers can't process blockades.

oh but if it were something like this the computer would say its a draw because of perpetual check?

 

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computers don't process the 50-move rule though.

 

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and you know those challenges where you have to checkmate with a certain piece, like the g1 or g8 knight? imagine what the analysis would come up with then...

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Here is one I made myself against the Blackburne-Shilling gambit called the flintlock trap:

The move black played is a blunder because:

White is threatening mate and the bishop, so black will lose one. Another line if black falls for the trap (the best response):

And in that position white is completely winning

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BlackLawliet wrote:

Here is one I made myself against the Blackburne-Shilling gambit called the flintlock trap:

The move black played is a blunder because:

White is threatening mate and the bishop, so black will lose one. Another line if black falls for the trap (the best response):

And in that position white is completely winning

So the purpose of b4 is to create an untouchable pawn that allows for Bb2? otherwise if black just ignores it I don't see a point, you're giving away a tempo...

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ninjaswat wrote:
BlackLawliet wrote:

Here is one I made myself against the Blackburne-Shilling gambit called the flintlock trap:

The move black played is a blunder because:

White is threatening mate and the bishop, so black will lose one. Another line if black falls for the trap (the best response):

And in that position white is completely winning

So the purpose of b4 is to create an untouchable pawn that allows for Bb2? otherwise if black just ignores it I don't see a point, you're giving away a tempo...

Yes. If your opponent doesn't take the pawn, then you can develop your bishop to b2, but in short time controls everyone I've encountered has taken the pawn.

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the so called "Meitner-Mieses" gambit. although i dont really think it's a gambit, rather a forced win for white

And there's so many threats for black to keep track of. qxg7 is one, nxc7+, and nh3 wins the queen like this

 

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BlackLawliet wrote:

Here is one I made myself against the Blackburne-Shilling gambit called the flintlock trap:

The move black played is a blunder because:

White is threatening mate and the bishop, so black will lose one. Another line if black falls for the trap (the best response):

And in that position white is completely winning

the thing about a gambit is the piece that has been gambited usually has to make a threat itself or at least attack something. Even bad ones, like the Düras gambit attack e4. Gambits are supposed to be aggresive.

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and somebody tried to premove the blackburne against me, so this happened:

 

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DaBabysSideTing wrote:

the so called "Meitner-Mieses" gambit. although i dont really think it's a gambit, rather a forced win for white

And there's so many threats for black to keep track of. qxg7 is one, nxc7+, and nh3 wins the queen like this

 

um... that one's already been posted.

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Kadenstarr wrote:

not really a trap but....

 

 

there are lots of openings where the fork trick may occur. For instance, the Modern defense, or Classical Pirc.

although this fork trick is inaccurate.

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because you moved the same pawn twice.

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Sameer_chess-player wrote:
DaBabysSideTing wrote:

the so called "Meitner-Mieses" gambit. although i dont really think it's a gambit, rather a forced win for white

And there's so many threats for black to keep track of. qxg7 is one, nxc7+, and nh3 wins the queen like this

 

um... that one's already been posted.

my bad then I didnt feel like reading 22 pages of this lmao

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Sameer_chess-player wrote:
BlackLawliet wrote:

Here is one I made myself against the Blackburne-Shilling gambit called the flintlock trap:

The move black played is a blunder because:

White is threatening mate and the bishop, so black will lose one. Another line if black falls for the trap (the best response):

And in that position white is completely winning

the thing about a gambit is the piece that has been gambited usually has to make a threat itself or at least attack something. Even bad ones, like the Düras gambit attack e4. Gambits are supposed to be aggresive.

Its a trap not a gambit

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The Drunken Knight Gambit in the Alburt variation of the Alekhine's Defense:

 

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BlackLawliet wrote:
Sameer_chess-player wrote:
BlackLawliet wrote:

Here is one I made myself against the Blackburne-Shilling gambit called the flintlock trap:

The move black played is a blunder because:

White is threatening mate and the bishop, so black will lose one. Another line if black falls for the trap (the best response):

And in that position white is completely winning

the thing about a gambit is the piece that has been gambited usually has to make a threat itself or at least attack something. Even bad ones, like the Düras gambit attack e4. Gambits are supposed to be aggresive.

Its a trap not a gambit

traps are still agrressive