The big dilemma of Nf3

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Nf3 is a known opening who lead sometimes to indian attack and more things. But there is a question of the next move for white for some of the black's moves.

Here are some examples:

This is one of the most playable moves for the black against Nf3. Now, the best move by the book is d4. But is that what we want when we played Nf3?
Maybe in this case we could start the game with d4 and play Nf6 instead? The problem here, that we played the best move by the book but it's still not what we wanted.

That's not a good move for the black usually according to the book. Now by the book the best move for white is e4. But if you look again, we could get to the same position on the board by playing e4 and then sicilian defense:

Is that what we wanted when we played Nf3?

So in those cases i ask you people, what would you do in those cases?

Note* = The book doesn't says g2 is a bad move, it just says it's not the best move.

I have nothing against the book, I really like to play like the book says, it's just about this case.

chessblood

I want this magic book.

Here_Is_Plenty

When I play 1) Nf3 it is because I want to play what we call a hypermodern opening where you encourage black to take the centre so you can destroy it with flank attacks (such as c4 which can be played at move 2 or later) and by piece control such as g3 and Bg2 taking the long diagonal.  I think you might have the wrong book if you really want to play 1) Nf3.

moonnie

The book is clearly wrong.

1) There is nothing wrong with c4 or g3 after d5 (there is nothing wrong with d4 either)

2) Once again there is nothing wrong with c5 but e4 is by no means the only move. c4 or g3 work as well.

GreenCastleBlock

Each person may have his or her own reasons for playing 1.Nf3, but if you are following the 'Kramnik Repetoire' the logic is that White can avoid some of the Indian Defenses.  1.Nf3 happens to also avoid aggressive tries like the Budapest/Albin/Benko which are only possible if White's first 2 moves are d4 + c4.

If 1.Nf3 d5, White plays 2.d4 since Black has committed to playing some kind of Queen's Gambit after the following c2-c4.

If 1.Nf3 Nf6, White plays 2.c4, with the idea of playing an English, or, in the case of 2...g6, going back into a KID via 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4, when we've avoided the Grunfeld.  If Black plays 2...e6, White can delay d4 until Black has played ..d5, depriving Black of the Nimzo-Indian and Bogo-Indian.  Play usually reaches some kind of Catalan.

If 1.Nf3 c5, White plays 2.c4 (usually followed by a quick d4) which is an English.  The Sicilian is also available via 2.e4, depending on White's taste.

If 1.Nf3 is met by any other move, White is usually playing 2.d4.

Sred

Even after 1.Nf3 c5 2.e4 it's not necessarily going to be a Sicilian. For example, white can go for a KIA, as Bobby Fischer used to do sometimes.

Here_Is_Plenty


I cant see Bobby going for a Kia, its much too small and uncomfortable a car.