The f5 Opening

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Jion_Wansu

According to lichess, the official name of this opening is the Duras Gambit, General.

 

On that site I've played it the most:

Duras Gambit, General: Played 11 times
Charlick Gambit: Played 4 times
Sicilian Defence, Smith-Morra Gambit: Played 4 times
Danish Gambit, Accepted: Played 3 times
Dutch Defence, General: Played 3 times
Scandinavian Defence, General: Played 2 times
Bishop's Opening, General: Played 1 time
Bishop's Opening, Lewis Gambit: Played 1 time
Danish Gambit, General: Played 1 time
Englund Gambit Complex, Soller Gambit: Played 1 time
Englund Gambit, Declined, Reverse French: Played 1 time
French Defence, Normal Variation: Played 1 time
Horwitz Defense, General: Played 1 time
Hungarian Opening, General: Played 1 time
King Pawn Game, Beyer Gambit: Played 1 time
King Pawn Game, Busch-Gass Gambit: Played 1 time
Lion Defence, Lion's Jaw: Played 1 time
Modern Defence, King Pawn Fianchetto: Played 1 time
Nimzo-Larsen Attack, Dutch Variation: Played 1 time
Owen Defence, General: Played 1 time
Queen Pawn Game, Veresov Attack: Played 1 time
Queen Pawn Opening, General: Played 1 time
Queen's Gambit Declined, Baltic Defence, Queen Attack: Played 1 time
Sicilian Defence, General: Played 1 time
Trompowsky Attack, Edge Variation: Played 1 time
Van't Kruijs Opening, General: Played 1 time
Vienna Game, Anderssen Defence: Played 1 time

 

 

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/lichess2

stDvy

Well...amazingly, so many have so, so, much to say about this very strange one, I guess I'll add my quibble to the dribble. Surprisingly, this gambit is more than playable and proves several adages. 1) Pieces beat pawns 2) developing pieces surpass capturing pawns. 3) Gambiteers are more important than gambits...and... most importantly You've got to go through it to get to it!

I would never play this: multiple pawn gambits are just not for me. If I were on the other side, I wouldn't even take the first one, unless I had to. Pieces move faster than pawns!

Twenty-CharacterName

The Colorado gambit is less unsound with the same idea: 1.e4 Nc6 2.Nf3 f5 White plays 2.Nf3 to avoid some trappy lines in the Nimzovich defence.

shivank2005

correct

shivank2005

but these days no one play max lange attack and kotlan wiski varition

Jion_Wansu

I don't understand. On the black side if the numbers are a + are they bad or good? Stockfish, in this game had a lot of + for black's moves:

 

http://en.lichess.org/oqDqmnG4/black#56

Gil-Gandel

And he's back - the guy who put the POS into "Positional".

drawingdroidfish
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JuergenWerner

...

ShianAntigeroy

white!

JuergenWerner

There's this:

 

[Site "Chess.com iPhone"]
[Date "01/12/2017 04:56PM"]
[White "Computer (Level 10) (0)"]
[Black "Computer (Level 10) (0)"]

1.e4 f5 2.exf5 g6 3.fxg6 Nf6 4.gxh7 Rxh7 5.Bd3 Rg7 6.Be2 d6 7.Bh5 Nxh5 8.Qxh5 Kd7 9.Ne2 c6 10.d3 Kc7 11.Bg5 Nd7 12.Nbc3 Nf6 13.Bxf6 exf6 14.O-O d5 15.Nf4 Bd6 16.Qf3 Qg8 17.Nfxd5 cxd5 18.Nb5 Kc6 19.Nxd6 Kxd6 20.Rfe1 Be6 21.g3 Re8 22.Qf4 Kd7 23.Qa4 Ke7 24.Re3 Kf8 25.Qd4 Rge7 26.Qxf6 Qf7 27.Qh8 Qg8 28.Qf6 Bf7 29.Rf1 Qg7 30.Qd6 Qg6 31.Qa3 Qa6 32.Qxa6 bxa6 33.Rfe1 Rc7 34.Rxe8 Bxe8 35.c3 d4 36.c4 Bg6 37.Rd1 Re7 38.Rd2 Bh5 39.Kf1 Bg4 40.h4 Bh3 41.Kg1 Re1 42.Kh2 Bg4 43.Kg2 Re2 44.Rxe2 Bxe2 45.f4 Bxd3 46.b3 Bb1 47.a3 Bc2 48.Kf3 Bxb3 49.Ke4 Bxc4 50.Kxd4 Be2 51.f5 Bd1 52.Ke3 Kg7 53.Kf4 Kh6 54.g4 a5 55.g5 Kg7 56.f6 Kg6 57.Ke5 Bb3 58.Kf4 Bd1 59.Ke5 Bb3 60.Kf4 Bd1

JuergenWerner

This is called Duras Gambit - Bavarian Attack

JuergenWerner
Jion_Wansu wrote:

From my other thread on USCF:

Since I created this. I would like to call the mainline the German opening:

 

1. e4 f5
2. exf5 g6
3. fxg6 Nf6
4. gxh7 Rxh7

Would you be black or white?

 

Duras Gambit: German Opening that can lead into the Duras Gambit: Bavarian Attack (for black)...

JuergenWerner

So what do you guys/gals think?...

Ingwerjunkee

BLACK Nightmare! Its showing all the donots you have to avoid in the important stage of the game. If any of the Fide Top ten would be able to end in draw as black side i would change my mind but i wont. The other way is that some loud shouting it German opening is unsound and hides some lack in Character of the speaker.

Ingwerjunkee

two pawns and no pompensation in the development of pieces. This is hardly not to call a gambit.

JuergenWerner

No, black has a direct attack on white's king side for the 2 pawns and will eventually control the center...

pfren
JuergenWerner έγραψε:

No, black has a direct attack on white's king side for the 2 pawns and will eventually control the center...

 

Black is completely busted everywhere but the parrallel universe you're living at.

Ingwerjunkee

Any way show some draw or won games in the upper level class! No Fideplayer would try such a piece donating nightmare! Show some instructional ans end this nonprofund bla bla! Thanks!

Lastrank
InfiniteFlash wrote:

This opening is worse than the bongcloud.

Nothing is worse than the bong cloud.