post #224, doesn't white eventually lose its queen?
The f5 Opening

i revived this thread also on the USCF forums
http://www.uschess.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=23&sid=d32224061b263b7b2a92c5c1394e4385

Just about the worst opening I've seen.
If you're not strong enough to beat your opponent from that position, then relax, you weren't going to beat them in any case.
post #224, doesn't white eventually lose its queen?
Nope, after the simple 9...Nf6 10. Nf3 Qe7+ 11. Kd1 Black's threat of Ne4-Nxf2# never materializes. After 11...d5 12. Re1 Ne4 12. Rxe4 dxe4 13. Ng5 Black is out of tricks and cannot stop the pawn.

White is pretty much fighting for a draw at this point.
Off topic and wrong
did you mean black is fighting for a draw

anyone know how to post chess diagrams here:
https://www.uschess.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=23&sid=bee9659e99a574e19ab396058c168e63

White is pretty much fighting for a draw at this point.
4...g5 isn't a good move... just tricky. 4...Nf6 is much better.

White is pretty much fighting for a draw at this point.
4...g5 isn't a good move... just tricky. 4...Nf6 is much better.
Didn't Lasker play 4...g5? Then again many examples of relatively poor opening play of his are quite abundant in Crouch's How to Defend in Chess. I personally wouldn't play 4...g5 either as it simply weakens the kingside and like you said there's absolutely nothing wrong with a simple developing move that prepares kingside castling.
For black I think a good plan is watch over the d5 square since d4 is coming or maybe target e3 (since white obviously wants to activate the bishop)? Might be inappropriate to plan right from 4...Nf6 and 5.d4 but white will either be passive or have some exploitable positional holes. 6.e3,c5 with play against d4 is a likely outcome but nothing is guarunteed.
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