Sorry, that was a typo... I'll re-post this tomorrow, correctly... Thanks for catching that!
The Fantasy Variation
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But you missed that the plan is to first maintain the center, then develop quickly. And keeping the position open only works if Black is very knowledgeable about the opening, otherwise there are a lot of quick traps.
There we go, now that's right.
Thanks guys!! Very informative
Did I not say that exd4 was wrong? Did you read what I wrote?
What is the difference here? You are prepared. "Only an idiot" includes anyone who has not prepared for this opening.
And even when Black is prepared, the opening is still sound enough for White.
By the way, one of the correct move choices for Black after 3... dxe4 4. fxe4 e5 5. Nf3 is likely 5... Be6.
Look, there is no need to be uncivil pfren ... Stop insulting me or you can leave.
And thank you, powerlevel, for pointing out the obvious to pfren.
Reads pretty insulting to me.
It's appropriate to be insulting sometimes. It keeps forums self regulating. Post poor moves and crappy analyse and someone will call you on it.
No, its just that we have a good understanding of chess, but you have an amazing one.
:)
(THIS IS SARCASM SO NO TROLLING)
As someone who played Caro Kann a lot in blitz games I can say that the fantasy variation is played about once in every 10 games. This means that every normal black player over 1500 is probably prepared better than white as i doubt caro kann is played once in every 10 games.
You (the OP) suggest the fantasy as a almost forced win for white in the Caro Kann while Pfren pointed out that this is not the case and that there are several way a sensible black player can get a good game (and most black players are sensible as it get played a lot so they are booked on it)
Personally I was always very happy with the fantasy because it gives you both an equal game and a psycological edge because you know your oponent does not like normal Caro Kann setups :)
pfren wrote:
Yohan_Saboba wrote:
By the way, one of the correct move choices for Black after 3... dxe4 4. fxe4 e5 5. Nf3 is likely 5... Be6.
Not bothered to watch the Shankland video, it seems. While it's aimed at post-newbies, which is a click above your level, still it's quite easy to follow.
Regards.
Ohhh, forgive me! It's so clear now! This is obviously constructive criticsm. Silly me, thinking it was insulting!
Sorry I'm not an IM. But I'm not exactly a patzer either. Or a newbie.
Define patzer.
Pfren's first priority is to belittle non-professionals it seems, ignore those who are telling you that's how he *should* behave - as if it's impossible to impart knowledge without being an asshole!?
@Yohan_Saboda: 3 months ago Pfren showed you why that variation you are showing here was not good.
That was in the forum http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/answer-to-the-fantasy-gambit, mentioned in this thread before.
He answered you correctly. In this thread you act as if you do not know and he is answering you for the very first time.
It is not. I think Pfren is quite polite to you considering you are repeating a game which is shown to be incorrect.
I am always glad to read his posts. He really helps us kibitzers.
Perhaps the best chance for Black to equalize is to keep the position closed with 3... e6 or 3... g6, as the White player is often looking specifically for an open position. The move 3... e5 is Black's most aggressive choice, as it keeps the position open, but allows attacking chances for White.