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RoobieRoo

Great ones! a thousand salutations to you and the ones you love! I have a question about the mainline Scando. 1.e4 d5, 2.exd Qxd5, 3.Nc3 and Qa5.


Now I have a problem with the move 3. Nc3, yes it gains a tempo on the queen, yes it controls the centre and yes it develops a piece but it appears to me that the knight is somehow misplaced on c3.  I am not entirely sure if it really is misplaced it just kind of feels that it is. Does anyone else know what I am talking about or have I flipped my lid and slobbering copious amounts of slobbery drool? Any ideas welcome.  

Here is a very nice game by Michael Adams which perhaps justifies the placement of the knight tactically, but i dunno, it still feels weird.



RoobieRoo

this seems like the way to go, not playing Nc3 which blocks the c pawn, but playing Nf3 so as to facilitate the advance of the c pawn.  It reaches the same kind of position by transposition.



RoobieRoo

another game in the Nf3 line in which black tries and early ...e5

 



RoobieRoo

Its of some interest that black usually manages to get one of whites central pawns and sometimes both but it seems that its somehow not that safe to castle on the queenside.

RoobieRoo

and finaly a game where the Queen goes to a5 which white actualy lost but could have won.



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RoobieRoo

I dont understand whites play, they should have played c4 much earlier and put the question to the queen, 'where are you going', h5, f5 or d7



RoobieRoo

yes things get really interesting if black tries to go after the a1 rook instead of playing ...e6 :D 

RoobieRoo

Here is a very interesting game in the topical line. 

RoobieRoo

amazing how fast whites attack came.

TwoMove

In the Adams game 7...Nf6 is an astonishing blunder for a FIDE 2300+ player.Think have reached the position twice against sub FIDE 2000 players,and they both moved the queen.

Jenium

@ Robbie: I don't know much about the position, but in one of his videos IM John Bartholomew basically says the same like you about Nc3.

RoobieRoo
Jenium wrote:

@ Robbie: I don't know much about the position, but in one of his videos IM John Bartholomew basically says the same like you about Nc3.

really? thats amazing.  I think the idea of the Nf3 line is that whites center will hold up long enough for him to get an attack.  At my measley level I dont know what the point is of learning any of these lines, in three games against Scando on another site all players have deviated after move three.

RoobieRoo
pfren wrote:
 

6...Nd7 isn't very good, either. 6...e6 or 6...Nf6 should be preferred. After 6...Nd7 white has the very unpleasant recipe 7.Qh5! threatening f7 in a primitive way, when 7...e6 drops a pawn, and 7...g6 8.Qe2 disrupts Black's normal development. Surprisingly enough noone has played 7.Qh5! in about 15 games played under that inaccurate move order.

how cunning :D

Jenium
robbie_1969 wrote:
Jenium wrote:

@ Robbie: I don't know much about the position, but in one of his videos IM John Bartholomew basically says the same like you about Nc3.

really? thats amazing.  I think the idea of the Nf3 line is that whites center will hold up long enough for him to get an attack.  At my measley level I dont know what the point is of learning any of these lines, in three games against Scando on another site all players have deviated after move three.

Yea, see here around 5:00. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OFlyaTAwns