This is the Pierce Gambit. There seems to be some good analysis on it here: http://tws27.50webs.com/chess/kings_gambit/pierce.htm
The Muzio Gambit-More sacrificial ideas
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Game was very nice but this gambit seems so trashy.
Sep 1, 2017
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LethalRook_1892 wrote:
Alekhine would not fall for this
Off course!I did not write this forum for Alekhine.
Sep 1, 2017
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tmkroll wrote:
This is the Pierce Gambit. There seems to be some good analysis on it here: http://tws27.50webs.com/chess/kings_gambit/pierce.htm
Thank you for giving detail info.But I think I gave 6.BC4 instead of 6.BF4...After all BF4 is the pierce gambit[atleast according to the information you provided]
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irahranchad wrote:
tmkroll wrote:
This is the Pierce Gambit. There seems to be some good analysis on it here: http://tws27.50webs.com/chess/kings_gambit/pierce.htm
Thank you for giving detail info.But I think I gave 6.BC4 instead of 6.BF4...After all BF4 is the pierce gambit[atleast according to the information you provided]!
5. d4 is the Pierce Gambit, but its move order is from the KG. Your text does transpose into it, however. Bf4 is treated first in the text I provided as a sideline, but the Shabalov Game, etc, treats Bc4, the text there is "This is the normal follow-up to the Pierce Gambit." All of the games after that stay with your line even longer through 7. 0-0.
Oct 13, 2017
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melvinbluestone wrote:
Black can, of course, decline the gambit. 5...Qe7 and d5 are tried occasionally. Usually, black grabs the knight anyway in the next few moves. It seems to be just a shuffling about of the move order. Is there some subtle difference between taking the knight immediately, 5...gxf3, and playing 5...Qe7 first and snatching the piece on the next move? If I knew anything about this game, I'd answer that question. Here's a few interesting tries with the move........
But it's not all beer and skittles for black with this line. Here's one from the "bromantic" era.......
The KG isn't seen much in master level play these days, and the Muzio is even rarer. But on the intermediate level, it's still pretty popular. At least where woodpushers like me play. Declining the knight can be an effective way to treat the Muzio. White's whole idea is to give the piece away in exchange for getting his queen, rook, and c4 bishop quickly lined up and aiming at f7. Leaving the knight of f3 sort of throws the proverbial monkey wrench into that plan......
Another option, if black doesn't grab the knight right, away is to get the piece "off" prise, and move it to a safe square. But this makes no sense. I mean, if you're playing the Muzio, you should want to give the piece away and just leave it there..... not change your mind if black doesn't take it and move the thing. Besides after 5...Nc6, there's no good square to put the knight on except e1, and that's hardly a "good" square for a knight.......
But in your game,the move c3 made a non-BROmantic appearence.
Oct 13, 2017
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My 
Mr.Frederik Stephens (Elo-2397)likes this variaton.Others who 
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O.Magnusson, Joseph KK,V.Sivakrishna, Muhamadh Ibrahim.
Bf4...
Nd5 is simpler and better...
Of course, u omit to tell that black can do better, especially at move 7 (several good moves and white is close to be lost).
melvinbluestone a écrit :
poucin wrote:
Bf4...
Nd5 is simpler and better...
Of course, u omit to tell that black can do better, especially at move 7 (several good moves and white is close to be lost).
You talkin' ta' me? Of course black can do better. I don't know who I was playing. You know how it is when you play online. I don't think it was any kinda' whizz at this game. For all I know, it was Donald Trump or Mike Tyson playing black........
Not difficult to understand who i was talking.
Oct 18, 2017
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In Melvinbluestone's 1st game,you messed up with 9.Rf2. 9.g3 instead,would have turned the tables round!
If 9. g3 had been played instead of 9. Rf2 the opponent might have continued 9... Bc5 anyway.
thx irahranchad for your analysis lol...
In all your analysis, like many players, u make opposite side playing the moves u "want".
But u know, u are not alone and your opponent is not here to make you win...
Think about your possibilities and about your opponent's.
The Muzio gambit of the Kings Gambit accepted , along with its beautiful knight sacrifice , was one of the most respected chess openings during the 19th century.Played by the elite of those times , this opening has an outstanding reputation and laid the basis for , for example the famous IMMORTAL GAME of Adolf Andersson , one of its keen practitioner.In this forum , instead of looking at the well known 'immortal'lines , I look forward into 'even more immortal'lines!!!Here is an analisis-
Black is ruthlessly demolished.The fun part is that at last,white had only a queen,king and 6 pawns!How is this? No wonder,Andersson has once said-Attack!Always Attack!