The Toilet Variation?

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Phriex wrote:

GM Mark Hebden came up with it whilst doing his business (I think)

I think that's correct. I played him once and I think I played a Sicilian.

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darkunorthodox88 wrote:

actually, you can just try to play it like a lizard attack KIA

white is ok if he has time to play g3 bg2 nf3 etc. The only problem is an early e5 where after nf3 exf4 is annoying. May just be about playable, but black has small advantage if he plays it that way. Looks harmless to play at the class player level though.

white is ok if he has time to play g3 bg2 nf3 etc. The only problem is an early e5 where after nf3 exf4 is annoying.    Solution:


Dont play Nf3 at that case. play g3 first. And then if eats gxf4 and Nf3 bg2 etc..

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Haiku575 wrote:

 

Is this really the name of the opening? If so, how did it get the name? 

 


It's because 1. e4 ... c5 2. f4 is known to be a poor continuation for white anyhow, due to 2. ... d5, equalising. This is just another means to equalise by black. It's crap for white .... hence the toilet variation. And that's how it got the name.

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There's a lot of mistakes with chess.com naming.

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McDonnell is just the weak 1. e5 c5 2. f4

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I only know of this as the McDonnell attack, unless d5 here gives it a new name. d5 also seems like a pretty unambitious move in the position, if I recall correctly I play Nc6 there to avoid some drawing line if you play d6.

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ItsTwoDuece wrote:

I only know of this as the McDonnell attack, unless d5 here gives it a new name. d5 also seems like a pretty unambitious move in the position, if I recall correctly I play Nc6 there to avoid some drawing line if you play d6.

I wouldn't say it's unambitious. 2. ...d5 might be played against a stronger player to defuse their opening but equally it could be played by a stronger, positional player. After 3. ed ... Qxd5 4. Nc3 Qd8, black is fine and has a solid position where white's f pawn is more a hindrance to white than a benefit. But the so-called "toilet variation" equalises too. Or black can go into their favourite anti-Grand-Prix line. I personally play my own line, which is e6, a6 and then d5.

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reall?

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Haiku575 wrote:

Is this really the name of the opening? If so, how did it get the name?

Because the originator was flushed with success when he played it.

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The opening is called that because it was invented on the toilet.
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StevetheRabbit wrote:
Haiku575 wrote:

Is this really the name of the opening? If so, how did it get the name?

Because the originator was flushed with success when he played it.

litterally the best joke ever lol

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Lol

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Haiku575 wrote:

Is this really the name of the opening? If so, how did it get the name?

someone played this in a classical game and went to use the toilet, only to come back an hour after the game ends and wrote 'toilet variation' on his game sheet

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I can't find the source for this. Maybe it was a 1980s "Chess" Magazine from back when B. H. Wood owned and edited it, maybe it was in "The Complete Chess Addict". But the way I recall hearing the source of the name runs... Back then, the Sicilian Althouse variation was a thing. Meanwhile, Grand Prix Attack players (in the '80s, both 2. f4 and 2. Nc3 followed by 3. f4 were both known as the Grand Prix) were none too happy facing Tal's 1. e4, c5; 2. f4, d5; 3. ed:, Nf6. So someone (likely Hebden but I can't swear to that) came up with 3. Nc3 and humorously referred to it as the Outhouse Variation. And from "Outhouse" to "Toilet" is but a small step.

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This opening is very disgusting. Please wash hands after using.