Thoughts on 1.Nc3

sigh, nc3 blocks in the c pawn and leaves the knight vulnerable, you have d and e4 reti and english, any other opening move is inferior, nc3 opening is inferior, fact, not to say you can't win with it, you can, don't believe me? go and ask a GM who will tell you the same, nobody is impressed with the little red letters beside your name my friend, fact is anybody of decent intelligence who puts in about 6 hours a day will easily reach NM level, most  people have lives and jobs, so are maybe 1600 or whatever and have to suffer snobs and nerds talking down to them about the rauzer veresov or the franco benoni or the vienna whirl, i made nearly fide 2000 hardly breaking a sweat, before having serious health problems, so i refuse to have the likes of pfren and stiggling and mr unorthodox talk down to me, drowning in a pool of their own pomposity, and while you stroke your huge egos could i remind there is a little kid in india who recently became youngest GM, he would defeat any of you easily

aw, poor little man-child got his feelings hurt, thank yew man-child for talking to us lower people with lives and jobs and stuff, you a GM? no, pfren? stiggling? neither am i, my frustration is when people take 200 posts to argue a point which is answered in one line, nc3 is inferior opening, proven by fact not one GM plays it regular, not awful, not unplayable, just not very good, little boy from india GM, you not, sowy, go back to basement loser

This is actually a bad Richter Veresov since in the original Richter Veresov move order the so early c5 is not possible. Mestrovic tried it once and quickly found himself into trouble.

right, fine, i gave that stuff how you say, shooting from the hip? some of said rant was childish i agree, my problem is i detect real snobbery and arrogance here, basic vibe is we got a title patzer dude so shut up and listen to us educate you with lots and lots of complex openings with silly names? the people you refer to as patzers could have a phd or a successful business, a busy career, family, whatever, somebody could be 1400 or 1600 or whatever because they too busy to play much, or maybe they play for fun and don't even care about ratings, remember titled players were patzers too, you must have been at some point, so a patzer might become a master someday, yes? point be having a junior title and a few red letters don't give you the right to be an arrogant jerk talking down to people!? maybe one can get to a point of over-analysis where we make things way more complicated than necessary, such as with nc3, not one GM plays that opening regular, so by definition nc3 must be pretty lame, yes? and when one gets to the point of declaring a move to have quote, no significant value apart from the inevitable transposition to another opening complex, well

oh, nearly forgot, i made the mere 97th percentile here with hardly any effort, before i got chronic health problems and software viruses, does that count as patzer level?

uhm, yeah? you never heard of viruses? played havoc last several months, not to mention being in bad connect area here in scotland, chronic lag, disconnect, piece movement ect, not to mention my personal health, so yeah, maybe i am a little angry and frustrated? did you not get what i said? i made near 2000 fide, and was top 3% here for a bit, so maybe that's why i have a thing about being talked down to, not anywhere near master but not a dumdum either, don't believe me? i honestly don't care my friend, i bet you've put in thousands of hours to make NM, fine, whatever, but what you seem unable to understand is that most people don't have those thousands of hours! most people have maybe 1 or 2 hours a day to play, so that's why going on about patzers and weakness and losers ect is arrogant and disrespectful,  you might well be dissing someone more clever than you! anyway fed up arguing post after post, i apologise for the sh,t talk and disrespect, i honestly don't get the obsession with nc3 but if you want to keep on with that's fine, up to you, so this is kinda like a handshake and me saying sorry mate, agree to disagree, question is, you man up to accept, or will you just throw another insulting and mocking post?

That's the Richter Variation. Far more point to it than Veresov's dull 4. Nf3. The opening should be called the Richter Attack.

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Did you have more success with the 4)Qd3 line or the 4) f3 line? 

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OK, after 1. d4 ...Nf6 2. Nc3 ...d5 3. Bg5 ... Nbd7, I would play 4. ...c6 against any normal white fourth move because I think it is black's most aggressive continuation, very flexible and black equalises quite easily in all lines. Did you get 4. ...c6 very much? I know it's excellent against 4. f3 and I've played it against 4. Qd3 and I think black is immediately slightly better. What do you think?

its a great opening with surprise value and independent character. i dont know why you think its not "worthy" of grandmasters, especially with so many easy transpositions to established systems. even some correspondence GM's have specialized in it.

for the most part , you DONT need to tranpose (many people think that's its only purpose), but agaisnt some black responses you might be better learning a transposition of choice instead of trying to be 100% of the beaten path.

for example 1.nc3 nf6, and white pretty much has to play some version of e4 or d4 or go into some sort of KIA like formation. luckily you can pick from many fine choices, like vienna gambit, g3 vienna,three nights game, veserov, jobava attack, etc, which are not fully mainstream but not super uncommon either.

or 1.nc3 c5 2.nf3 (2.d4!? is interesting though) 2.nc6 and you are pretty much back to transposing. 

I used to play 1.Nc3 to try to get the Vienna Game and often played the Veresov if i didn't get 1...e5.  Black usually played e5, d5, or Nf6 as their first move.