Whenver i play the London System, black plays 3.Bd6 and i answer 4.Bg5 and that makes London System totally worthless.
Torre Attack vs London System
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Not sure what you're saying, exactly, since in your London diagram, 3...Bd6 is quite impossible.
Also not sure what you're saying about the Torre. You don't transpose the London into the Torre. At least not very well. It becomes one or the other based on where you put the bishop on move 2/3 (typically). If you move your bishop from f4 to g5 in reaction, you're voluntarily playing a tempo down as white. You might be able to get away with it since the system is slow to build anyway, but what that has to do with making anything worthless, I'm not sure.
But the lines where black does play ...Bd6 aren't especially fearsome for White. White is fine in those variations. He doesn't get a crushing attack or anything. Just good, solid position from which to start his middlegame planning. Which is pretty much what you play the London for in the first place.
AnthonyCG wrote:
I started playing the Grunfeld a while ago. I don't know any theory but I can pretty much rattle off Nf6, g6 d5, Bg7, O-O and c5 almost regardless of whichever system White uses. That c5 move just always seems to make it easy to play with Black.
Since White isn't really doing anything you get to put your bishop on g7 and you don't have to block in your light-squared bishop.
As a former long-time London-System-Player (meanwhile i changed to the Blackmar-Diemer-Gambit) i was always scared if Black choosed the GID-System against me. I never found a really good plan...actual i would prefer the Barry-Attack with Nc3 and Be2 and then go ahead for a atack on the kingside.
Estragon wrote:Kamsky used the London successfully when he came back after years away from competition, but he's Kamsky and you aren't.
And that is exactly why you should focus ALL your studying time on tactics and endgames, not on 'remembering move orders in Najdorf'.
Estragon wrote:
For the record, I don't think White has the easier side to play, either.
When White plays the London, Black may not be as familiar, but he doesn't need to be because so many reasonable-looking moves are in fact good. .
Many reasonably looking moves allow an advantage for white. Your argument is certianly not correct; only a very few set-ups are close to equal. E.g., all lines where black plays e6 and shuts in the bishop are += (better for white)
And, there are new ideas in most of the Qb6 lines. Unclear, with great practical winning chances for white, is my opinion
