Trying to figure out a new opening without a book so that no one will see it coming.

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Graw81
Chesser777 wrote: Loomis wrote: Chesser, 1. g3 b6 2. Bg2 Ba6?? 3. Bxa8

 Didnt see that srr.

1.g3 b6 2.Bg2 d5 3.d4 (or something else) 3. ... Ba6


 That ...b6 and ...Ba6 idea is an internet opening. In fact, i think i have seen an article about it on Eric Schillers page. Not certain but i have definatley seen it in internet blitz.

EDIT: Heres the link http://www.ericschiller.com/pdf/GuatemalaDefense.pdf
Graw81

Heres an interesting opening you might like to try. Its kind of like a ''Double Alekhine''.  

 


onewho_dies
ok but I think the knights would move out rather than back in
Graw81
onewho_dies wrote: ok but I think the knights would move out rather than back in

 well.... i posted it that you are playing as the black player. i probably should have flipped the board but now everyone knows for sure what i meant. you are right though, normally a player will play 1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 but in this case you (the black player) go back to g8. Your opponent will take control of the centre with 3.d4 and 3...Nc6 is an invitation for 4.d5. Its hard for white not to push the pawns because its soo tempting. Its an unusual position and a nice little surprise line.


Ray_Brooks

 REPLY TO THE ORIGINAL POST

What do you play against 2.... exf4?  you can't play 3 gxf4 because 3.... Qh4#.

You're just a pawn down, with a busted position, as far as I can see.

Opening books are repositories of human knowledge, why not avail yourself of all that hard won information?


Graw81
Ray_Brooks wrote:

What do you play against 2.... exf4?  you can't play 3 gxf4 because 3.... Qh4#.

You're just a pawn down, with a busted position, as far as I can see.

Opening books are repositories of human knowledge, why not avail yourself of all that hard won information?


 Yup! thats good information. A copy of NCO should do the trick! Eric Schiller has an interesting book on Unorthodox openings which could be worth getting a copy too. Has anyone got that book? I was thinking of buying a copy.


Chesser777

What after

1.g3 e5

2.h4 d5

3.Bh3 ... 


judgeofthenight

A great attack and a great(!) defence against it. 


onewho_dies

hhmm ok


BigHogDogg

Judge of the night, scholars mate is refuted via

e4 - e5 - Qh5 - Nc6 (to defend the pawn)

Bc4 (trying to mate with a bishop/queen combo)

g6 (blocking the queen, now that the pawn is protected)

Qf3 (still attempting to mate)

Nf6 (blocking the queen) is =+

G4 (if your opponent is NEVER giving up, they will try to use the pawn to dislodge the knight) 

Nd4 (attacking the queen)

Qd1 (the only way to save the queen and the pawn and protect against a knight fork)

d5 is -+, My friend tells me its analyzed at -2.5 (1 would be a pawn)


sstteevveenn
ok that 2 knights thing was probably a joke, but you cant play d5 because of Nxe5.  Just play Nf3. 
onewho_dies
Well I see my first idea was a little off but I'd like to know about this one since I have used it often and have not lost horribly with it
. Sorry for any spelling or grammer errors.Look in the move list for what I have seen and what I do I think I covered all of the reasonable ones( maybe not!).
judgeofthenight

another one

 


onewho_dies

;) here's the true opening that some one showed me